Drivetrain Transmission, LSD, Clutch, Driveline, Axles...

ENGINE/Trans Origin and design??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 02:39 AM
  #1  
darkermatthew's Avatar
Thread Starter
New Member
 
Joined: 04-25-05
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta
ENGINE/Trans Origin and design??

Anyone Know the history and design of the 2.0L Supercharged Engine and tranny? Ive seen it in a redline I test drove and I know its in the SS Cobalt. It looks like a german-built motor such volkswagon or bmw. Now Im sure its not a jetta motor, but is there an influence from somewhere european?
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 02:53 PM
  #2  
jypy's Avatar
New Member
 
Joined: 02-03-05
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: Montreal
The 2L/SC ecotec is manufacture in Kaiserslautern, Germany (The 2.2 in NY, TN and Germany). The line of Ecotec engine is used on many European car, Opel, Saab, and is even used by the Aussie , in the Holden brand. The delta platform, it is the same one used as on the Opel(Germany) Astra and the Vauxhall(GB) Astra. The transmission is Fiat/GM desing(Italy), the same one used on the Saab 93(Sweden).
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:00 PM
  #3  
zinner's Avatar
Moderator Alumni
 
Joined: 08-26-04
Posts: 4,944
Likes: 2
From: RTP, NC
A little peice of paper that comes with the manual says the transmission is made in Sweden and the engine is made in the USA.
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 02:20 AM
  #4  
jypy's Avatar
New Member
 
Joined: 02-03-05
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: Montreal
Originally Posted by zinner
A little peice of paper that comes with the manual says the transmission is made in Sweden and the engine is made in the USA.
All GM engine spec from The GM web site the 2L is made in Germany and for the f35 trans is made in Austria.
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 02:37 AM
  #5  
Vendian's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 01-22-05
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
From: Gilbert, AZ
Complete and utter chaos, nobody can decide!! I'll just believe Zinner cause he's been here long and has paper proof + more posts, but what the hell do I know.
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 01:54 PM
  #6  
zinner's Avatar
Moderator Alumni
 
Joined: 08-26-04
Posts: 4,944
Likes: 2
From: RTP, NC
I don't doubt that the engine is made in multiple locations.

But I have a piece of paper that was put in the car by the factory and you have a link on the GM website.

Given both I believe the paper, the GM website has been know to have inaccurate info before. such as avalible in Late Fall 2004

Reply
Old May 25, 2005 | 08:29 PM
  #7  
JapEatr's Avatar
South Central *********
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: 05-14-05
Posts: 6,148
Likes: 48
From: Texas
i have the same paper in mine
Reply
Old May 26, 2005 | 05:22 PM
  #8  
Maven's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 05-25-05
Posts: 7,661
Likes: 7
From: Southern New Jersey
the LSJ 2.0L ECOtec engine in the Cobalt SS/sc is one of 3 variant in the ECOtec family of DOHC inline four cylinder engines made exclusively by GM......the MC6 5spd manual in the SS/sc is also known as the Saab F35(Saab is a GM division)...the 2.2L L61 and the 2.4L LE5 Cobalts and Pursuits use the Getrag F23 transmission, as does the upcoming HHR.

the 2.0L LSJ is according to GM powertrain consumer website built in Germany, however my car as well as every other SS i have seen has the content label listing point of origin as USA. The F35 transmission IS manufactured in Sweden. I have a call in to GM to get engine VIN derivation information and find out once and for all if the LSJ is American made or not.

The ECOtec family of engines debuted in the US in the 2002 model year Cavalier(J body) to replace both the anemic 2.2L OHV LN2 and the legendary but dated 2.4L DOHC Quad4 LD9. all 3 displacement variant of the ECOtec are designed with VVT capabilities but the 2.4L LE5 in 2006 products will be the first to utilize the system.

The ECOtec engines currently and in the future will power everything from Chevrolet Cobalts, Malibus, and HHR...Pontiac Pursuits, G6 sedan, Solstice roadster,Oldsmobile Alero, Saturn VUE, ION, L series, and Sky roadsters. As well as championship holding NHRA race cars, Grand American Cup Series Cobalt racecars and Bonneville Salt Flat speed record holders.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 12:24 PM
  #9  
djt81185's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 08-19-05
Posts: 3,018
Likes: 0
From: Horseheads, NY
the sheet on my ion said
engine: germany
tranny: sweden
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 12:44 PM
  #10  
97cavie24ls's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 06-14-05
Posts: 1,130
Likes: 0
From: phoenix , az
GM is most likely building the motors here now , since they are using the s/c

and saab is using a turbo


the eco tec was originally designed with help from lotus
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2005 | 01:29 AM
  #11  
ExHondaMan's Avatar
Domestics Pwn
 
Joined: 07-17-05
Posts: 1,409
Likes: 1
From: Phoenix AZ
they probably shifted production when they started building the SS...
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 07:57 PM
  #12  
lildudeus's Avatar
New Member
 
Joined: 10-23-05
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
From: New Mexico
Question

ok this might be a little off the subject but did anyone see the street tuner challenge when gm built that cobalt ss i was wondering if anyone knew the name of tha company that actually modded the motor it was a sub-contractor of gm i'm trying to get a hold of them i heard they are making different sized pulley for their stage 2 thanks
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:03 PM
  #13  
HackAbuse's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 11-16-05
Posts: 11,137
Likes: 1
From: Central NY
Way to dig up a ghetto old post
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 08:15 AM
  #14  
Maven's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 05-25-05
Posts: 7,661
Likes: 7
From: Southern New Jersey
Katech Inc.

www.katechengines.com
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dennis69
08-10 SS Turbocharged General Discussion
7
Oct 20, 2015 07:39 AM
ashalle2
Parts
1
Sep 27, 2015 03:28 PM
speedlimit
Site Development and Help
2
Sep 25, 2015 08:04 AM
Extreme Dimensions
South Pacific
0
Sep 24, 2015 05:24 PM
09BlkCrusader
Parts
30
Sep 9, 2015 04:47 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:51 AM.