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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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Thumbs down Bought TAG's Flash by email

I bought TAG's Flash by e-mail and they were to tune my car by HPT logs......They never did. I've sent PM's an E-mails and received no supporting replies....WTF?!? We discussed that they woud give me a base tune and I'll log my car under WOT and they will make corrections......NEVER HAPPENED!!!! It's been about 2 months now and I waisted $100. They were quick to reply when they knew that I was interested and had money in hand...as soon as I sent the money.....NO SUPPORT . I hope no one else has to go through what I've been going through with these people. Just be careful which vendors you use.

Mel, Rhys, and/or Mike if you read this PLEASE RETURN MY E-MAILS / PM'S!!
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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I could've saved you a $100....
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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I know that now!!
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Old May 31, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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That really sucks!
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Old May 31, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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tuning over the internet FTL!!
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
tuning over the internet FTL!!
Werd Up
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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y do people insist on mail order tunes, those arent good tunes people get a full dyno tune, its more worth the money as they can tune it real time and see what the car does after each tweak. spend money the right way. come on peeps.

I by no means am saying tag doesnt know how to tune but when it comes to mail order tunes it doesnt work no matter who tunes it. why do u think hypertech power programers are so unpopular w/ gm vehicles, its cuz it doesnt work as well as a real dyno tune.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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tag may be great at tuning, but YOU were the one who bought a mail tune, and knew you were going to have to go through this and now your going to bash them? Seems like your own fault to me
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Old May 31, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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He said that they were going to make ajustments to his tune once he had logs. Now there is no answer from them, how the hell is that his fault? Ya mail order tunes aren't the best and that's why they were going to make adjustments for him.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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He said that they were going to make ajustments to his tune once he had logs. Now there is no answer from them, how the hell is that his fault? Ya mail order tunes aren't the best and that's why they were going to make adjustments for him.
Great someone actually read my orginal post. THANKS BlackSS/SC !!

"We discussed that they woud give me a base tune and I'll log my car under WOT and they will make corrections......"

They were to continue doing this until tune was strong, safe, and I was satisified.

If you tune your car on the streets......you would be doing the exact same thing as I am except for I was having TAG make the corrections.

The whole reason I bought this service was to use it as a guide and a learning tool. I'm new at tuning and not the best tuner and always willing to learn how to do more.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Street tuning > Dyno tuning


Remote tuning can be done, but there is a delay in results. It doesn't matter if you are in the car or not, seeing the logs you ought to be able to tune it.

Sucks that TAG has been unresponsive. Did the person leave TAG who was supposed to be doing the tuning?


And $100.00 is a small price for them to charge given the hassle that they could go through.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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hm another dissatisfied TAG customer? wait, whats that, oh yeah its a trend...
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
Street tuning > Dyno tuning


Remote tuning can be done, but there is a delay in results. It doesn't matter if you are in the car or not, seeing the logs you ought to be able to tune it.

Sucks that TAG has been unresponsive. Did the person leave TAG who was supposed to be doing the tuning?


And $100.00 is a small price for them to charge given the hassle that they could go through.
Thats why I jumped on the (so called) deal
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Where the hell is the supercharger swap! But thats shitty about the tune. Silverss you make no sense.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by M88ArRamadi
Thats why I jumped on the (so called) deal
I'm guessing you have HPTuners if you were getting email tunes?

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Where the hell is the supercharger swap! But thats shitty about the tune. Silverss you make no sense.
Anyone who was waiting on the twinscrew might just get PLAIN SCREWED!

I don't know why everyone is waiting for someone else to do something first. So many of us could have gone turbo instead of waiting. I wouldn't want my car to be 4-5 years old before the "Next big thing" came out.

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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
I'm guessing you have HPTuners if you were getting email tunes?



Anyone who was waiting on the twinscrew might just get PLAIN SCREWED!

I don't know why everyone is waiting for someone else to do something first. So many of us could have gone turbo instead of waiting. I wouldn't want my car to be 4-5 years old before the "Next big thing" came out.
Yea I have hpt
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
I'm guessing you have HPTuners if you were getting email tunes?



Anyone who was waiting on the twinscrew might just get PLAIN SCREWED!

I don't know why everyone is waiting for someone else to do something first. So many of us could have gone turbo instead of waiting. I wouldn't want my car to be 4-5 years old before the "Next big thing" came out.
Ya a shop near me said they would make me a custom turbo kit for 4k installed with it tuned also. Its looking more and more tempting now.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by M88ArRamadi
Yea I have hpt
What type of setup are you running? I've probably tuned more cobalts than TAG anyhow.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
What type of setup are you running? I've probably tuned more cobalts than TAG anyhow.
look at my garage

I have:

60 lb Injectors w/ harness
Machined Supercharger Snout
INTENSE 2.5” pulley (~22 psi)
Supercharger Coupler
Oversized Supercharger Tensioner Pulley
Stage 2 Drive Belt
Injen Cold Air Intake
Vibrant Headers w/Down-Pipe - STAINLESS
Vibrant 3” Cat-Back - STAINLESS
SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch
Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel
Cometic MLS Head Gasket
ARP Head Studs
Diamond Forged Pistons (10.0:1)
Methanol Injection (375ml)
HP Tuners
NGK Iridium IX 2 stage colder (BKR8EIX-2668)
2-Pass Intercooler
2nd Coolant Reservoir
180* Thermostat
JPB Control Arm Bushings
Polyurethane Engine Mounts
Polyurethane Transmission Mounts

ON ORDER:

Ported Supercharger
Darton Sleeve Kit
GMPP Neutral Balance Shafts
Ferrea Valve Springs
Ferrea Valve Spring Retainers
Ferrea Seat Locators
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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Ya a shop near me said they would make me a custom turbo kit for 4k installed with it tuned also. Its looking more and more tempting now.
No kidding. I think the twin screw is going to be as expensive as a turbo, but less efficient. You could turbo the cobalt with Air to air, and air to water intercooling. I would get forged pistons for it though, so you could take better advantage of the higher boost levels from various turbochargers.

Originally Posted by M88ArRamadi
look at my garage

I have:

60 lb Injectors w/ harness
Machined Supercharger Snout
INTENSE 2.5” pulley (~22 psi)
Supercharger Coupler
Oversized Supercharger Tensioner Pulley
Stage 2 Drive Belt
Injen Cold Air Intake
Vibrant Headers w/Down-Pipe - STAINLESS
Vibrant 3” Cat-Back - STAINLESS
SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch
Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel
Cometic MLS Head Gasket
ARP Head Studs
Diamond Forged Pistons (10.0:1)
Methanol Injection (375ml)
HP Tuners
NGK Iridium IX 2 stage colder (BKR8EIX-2668)
2-Pass Intercooler
2nd Coolant Reservoir
180* Thermostat
JPB Control Arm Bushings
Polyurethane Engine Mounts
Polyurethane Transmission Mounts

ON ORDER:

Ported Supercharger
Darton Sleeve Kit
GMPP Neutral Balance Shafts
Ferrea Valve Springs
Ferrea Valve Spring Retainers
Ferrea Seat Locators


Looks just like Gilberts Motor. I'm tuning that setup right now. I am guessing that your motor is not all together at the moment since you have valves and balance shafts on order?

Who ported the supercharger? I have ported about 18 of them so far.

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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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No kidding. I think the twin screw is going to be as expensive as a turbo, but less efficient. You could turbo the cobalt with Air to air, and air to water intercooling. I would get forged pistons for it though, so you could take better advantage of the higher boost levels from various turbochargers.





Looks just like Gilberts Motor. I'm tuning that setup right now. I am guessing that your motor is not all together at the moment since you have valves and balance shafts on order?

Who ported the supercharger? I have ported about 18 of them so far.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Damn your going to run those mods and trust a mail order tune..... Tuning is one of the most importnat parts. Dont be cheap haha
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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Damn your going to run those mods and trust a mail order tune..... Tuning is one of the most importnat parts. Dont be cheap haha
I think tuning is the most important part there. And it is a lot more tiring to tune by proxy. He might not have any options.

The 2.5" pulley and 10.0:1 pistons has me a little worried, because those are hard to tune together, though not as impossible as some say it is.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Ya I see alot of people going from a 2.5-2.6 pulley to 10:1 pistons and 2.9 pulley. Dont you think its to much boost for the compression
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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I'm changing it a 2.7". I though that 2.5" was a little much

BTW I live almost 3 hours from a reputable tuner (I live in the middle of the Mojave Desert).......he's only done one cobalt before.....MINE. I think it was around $300 for my dyno tune. He didn't mess with the timing....he only fixed the afr (34 pulls!!!)

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