View Poll Results: Should the War Stories Section be Removed?
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POLL: War Stories Section Removal
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here you go. theres some screenshots of my telemetry data from road racing at Nelsons Ledges
note that I posted it in the "racing" section
here you go. theres some screenshots of my telemetry data from road racing at Nelsons Ledges
note that I posted it in the "racing" section
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There's a lot of illegal things people do, don't push your opinion and think everyone has to agree. You never roll thru a stop sign? you NEVER speed even 1mph over the limit? You never forget to put on your seatbelt or text while driving??? Most do and they are all just as deadly...
Street racing has been around forever and is part of the culture IMO. If you don't like it, ignore the section. Im sure you (and many other members really) don't view every section on here anyway, so just make that another one.
Street racing has been around forever and is part of the culture IMO. If you don't like it, ignore the section. Im sure you (and many other members really) don't view every section on here anyway, so just make that another one.
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why is it a criminal offense? because the law says so? if its done in a safe controlled enviroment i see no issues..hell i know of a city down here where the cops are fine with it if its done after a certain hour in a certain place because they know its going to happen one way or another so why not allow to be done in as safe of a enviroment as it can be.
Do they have tire walls?
Do they have run off areas?
Do they have medical equipment on hand?
Do they have flaggers to tell you something's wrong up ahead and you need to stop?
These are the things that define a safe controlled enviromnent for racing.
Have you ever done any real racing? Or are you kicked out of all the tracks like Dominic Toretto?
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public roads are not safe controlled environments.
Do they have tire walls?
Do they have run off areas?
Do they have medical equipment on hand?
Do they have flaggers to tell you something's wrong up ahead and you need to stop?
These are the things that define a safe controlled enviromnent for racing.
Have you ever done any real racing? Or are you kicked out of all the tracks like Dominic Toretto?
Do they have tire walls?
Do they have run off areas?
Do they have medical equipment on hand?
Do they have flaggers to tell you something's wrong up ahead and you need to stop?
These are the things that define a safe controlled enviromnent for racing.
Have you ever done any real racing? Or are you kicked out of all the tracks like Dominic Toretto?
an just to make you feel special yes (cement barriers), yes (long road, wide shoulders, flat ground on both sides that are completely open), 3 of the people out there everytime are EMT's with the bags, an what do you need a flagger for when you can see down the road as its lit up?? plus road is flat an straight which does tend to aid that as well
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Race tracks have insurance to cover people who are injured/wrecked. You won't get your car impounded and you won't go to prison for racing on a legitimate track.
None of the above on the streets. None of what Dirty said on the streets.
This has officially turned into a stupid thread of who can prove if street racing is safe/legit or dangerous/illegal, where the answer is pretty much obvious.
/thread
None of the above on the streets. None of what Dirty said on the streets.
This has officially turned into a stupid thread of who can prove if street racing is safe/legit or dangerous/illegal, where the answer is pretty much obvious.
/thread
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i have run at the track before the track down here sucks, they don't prep for ****, an cost way to much to be worth it for the amount of runs you can squeeze in.
an just to make you feel special yes (cement barriers), yes (long road, wide shoulders, flat ground on both sides that are completely open), 3 of the people out there everytime are EMT's with the bags, an what do you need a flagger for when you can see down the road as its lit up?? plus road is flat an straight which does tend to aid that as well
an just to make you feel special yes (cement barriers), yes (long road, wide shoulders, flat ground on both sides that are completely open), 3 of the people out there everytime are EMT's with the bags, an what do you need a flagger for when you can see down the road as its lit up?? plus road is flat an straight which does tend to aid that as well
1. you are a random internet forum person
2. you street race, which alone omits all credibility.
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its as safe as you make it....you can go either way an its all personal belief an choice. you believe what you believe simple as that. That is all this thread will be a clashing of two different opinions. All im trying to state is that no its not 100% safe but nothing is
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Yeah I'm done with this conversation.
Too many inexperienced people on this forum with over-inflated confidence.
go ahead and quote me, reply to wat I've said. I'm no longer listening. I've said what I've needed to say and made the points I need to make.
Too many inexperienced people on this forum with over-inflated confidence.
go ahead and quote me, reply to wat I've said. I'm no longer listening. I've said what I've needed to say and made the points I need to make.
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The war stories thread doesn't generate anything of real value.. Steets are not tracks, condition are different. I wouldn't say a street race is comparable to a race (on a proper) track. You don't get much out of seeing that someone in a cobalt beat xyz car. Tracks are consistent (bad or good) while streets are not. / my opinion ends here
This forum is very touchy. Your talking about other peoples cars or your own. People are defensive, they also get offensive, there isn't a right and wrong most of the time.
Remember political threads? What did they bring to the forum...nothing productive. R E A D the threads in the forum. Are they comical in a raunchy way? Yup. Do they reflect poorly on this entire site? Yup. This section is an important ingredient to creating problems..
If you have never been in a position where your running a forum (or attempting to run it well) I can see how its not easy to distinguish why this is an anchor. Don't click on it if you don't like it does NOT apply in this particular case. Every forum we have is a showcase to the world. Right now our war stories forum is a showcase showing that its ok for me to tell you to ****off because I think your opinion/post/question sucks. Its showing prospective members, current members and prospective vendors / vendors that its ok for members to treat each other with no respect. It only takes a few examples of THIS to ruin the countless other forums we have that show members respecting each other.
This is just one step towards fixing a broken car(cobaltss.net). I pray that the rest of the much needed fixes are not met with this kind of resistance.
And if you want examples ofwhats NOT going to help grow the stie, keep reading:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293463-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293465-post12.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293469-post14.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291162-post2.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291168-post5.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291233-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291754-post25.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5289994-post15.html
I can go on and on and on but I hope the point is sinking in. Will this completely fix the problems I talked about? No...no...but its a start.
This forum is very touchy. Your talking about other peoples cars or your own. People are defensive, they also get offensive, there isn't a right and wrong most of the time.
Remember political threads? What did they bring to the forum...nothing productive. R E A D the threads in the forum. Are they comical in a raunchy way? Yup. Do they reflect poorly on this entire site? Yup. This section is an important ingredient to creating problems..
If you have never been in a position where your running a forum (or attempting to run it well) I can see how its not easy to distinguish why this is an anchor. Don't click on it if you don't like it does NOT apply in this particular case. Every forum we have is a showcase to the world. Right now our war stories forum is a showcase showing that its ok for me to tell you to ****off because I think your opinion/post/question sucks. Its showing prospective members, current members and prospective vendors / vendors that its ok for members to treat each other with no respect. It only takes a few examples of THIS to ruin the countless other forums we have that show members respecting each other.
This is just one step towards fixing a broken car(cobaltss.net). I pray that the rest of the much needed fixes are not met with this kind of resistance.
And if you want examples ofwhats NOT going to help grow the stie, keep reading:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293463-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293465-post12.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293469-post14.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291162-post2.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291168-post5.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291233-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291754-post25.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5289994-post15.html
I can go on and on and on but I hope the point is sinking in. Will this completely fix the problems I talked about? No...no...but its a start.
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This is america if we cant talk about street racing on our car forum what the **** is the point? Removing the war stories section is just un american plain and simple, street racing is what started the muscle car craze. How is there not more dedication to street racing is the question you should be asking yourself.
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The war stories thread doesn't generate anything of real value.. Steets are not tracks, condition are different. I wouldn't say a street race is comparable to a race (on a proper) track. You don't get much out of seeing that someone in a cobalt beat xyz car. Tracks are consistent (bad or good) while streets are not. / my opinion ends here
This forum is very touchy. Your talking about other peoples cars or your own. People are defensive, they also get offensive, there isn't a right and wrong most of the time.
Remember political threads? What did they bring to the forum...nothing productive. R E A D the threads in the forum. Are they comical in a raunchy way? Yup. Do they reflect poorly on this entire site? Yup. This section is an important ingredient to creating problems..
If you have never been in a position where your running a forum (or attempting to run it well) I can see how its not easy to distinguish why this is an anchor. Don't click on it if you don't like it does NOT apply in this particular case. Every forum we have is a showcase to the world. Right now our war stories forum is a showcase showing that its ok for me to tell you to ****off because I think your opinion/post/question sucks. Its showing prospective members, current members and prospective vendors / vendors that its ok for members to treat each other with no respect. It only takes a few examples of THIS to ruin the countless other forums we have that show members respecting each other.
This is just one step towards fixing a broken car(cobaltss.net). I pray that the rest of the much needed fixes are not met with this kind of resistance.
And if you want examples ofwhats NOT going to help grow the stie, keep reading:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293463-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293465-post12.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293469-post14.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291162-post2.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291168-post5.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291233-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291754-post25.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5289994-post15.html
I can go on and on and on but I hope the point is sinking in. Will this completely fix the problems I talked about? No...no...but its a start.
This forum is very touchy. Your talking about other peoples cars or your own. People are defensive, they also get offensive, there isn't a right and wrong most of the time.
Remember political threads? What did they bring to the forum...nothing productive. R E A D the threads in the forum. Are they comical in a raunchy way? Yup. Do they reflect poorly on this entire site? Yup. This section is an important ingredient to creating problems..
If you have never been in a position where your running a forum (or attempting to run it well) I can see how its not easy to distinguish why this is an anchor. Don't click on it if you don't like it does NOT apply in this particular case. Every forum we have is a showcase to the world. Right now our war stories forum is a showcase showing that its ok for me to tell you to ****off because I think your opinion/post/question sucks. Its showing prospective members, current members and prospective vendors / vendors that its ok for members to treat each other with no respect. It only takes a few examples of THIS to ruin the countless other forums we have that show members respecting each other.
This is just one step towards fixing a broken car(cobaltss.net). I pray that the rest of the much needed fixes are not met with this kind of resistance.
And if you want examples ofwhats NOT going to help grow the stie, keep reading:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293463-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293465-post12.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293469-post14.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291162-post2.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291168-post5.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291233-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291754-post25.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5289994-post15.html
I can go on and on and on but I hope the point is sinking in. Will this completely fix the problems I talked about? No...no...but its a start.
/thread
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this may just be me but i hate the war stories section. yes i kno ppl will say "just dont go in it" but its so damn pointless imo. to me, if i dont see a vid it didnt happen.
#121
The war stories thread doesn't generate anything of real value.. Steets are not tracks, condition are different. I wouldn't say a street race is comparable to a race (on a proper) track. You don't get much out of seeing that someone in a cobalt beat xyz car. Tracks are consistent (bad or good) while streets are not. / my opinion ends here
This forum is very touchy. Your talking about other peoples cars or your own. People are defensive, they also get offensive, there isn't a right and wrong most of the time.
Remember political threads? What did they bring to the forum...nothing productive. R E A D the threads in the forum. Are they comical in a raunchy way? Yup. Do they reflect poorly on this entire site? Yup. This section is an important ingredient to creating problems..
If you have never been in a position where your running a forum (or attempting to run it well) I can see how its not easy to distinguish why this is an anchor. Don't click on it if you don't like it does NOT apply in this particular case. Every forum we have is a showcase to the world. Right now our war stories forum is a showcase showing that its ok for me to tell you to ****off because I think your opinion/post/question sucks. Its showing prospective members, current members and prospective vendors / vendors that its ok for members to treat each other with no respect. It only takes a few examples of THIS to ruin the countless other forums we have that show members respecting each other.
This is just one step towards fixing a broken car(cobaltss.net). I pray that the rest of the much needed fixes are not met with this kind of resistance.
And if you want examples ofwhats NOT going to help grow the stie, keep reading:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293463-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293465-post12.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293469-post14.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291162-post2.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291168-post5.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291233-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291754-post25.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5289994-post15.html
I can go on and on and on but I hope the point is sinking in. Will this completely fix the problems I talked about? No...no...but its a start.
This forum is very touchy. Your talking about other peoples cars or your own. People are defensive, they also get offensive, there isn't a right and wrong most of the time.
Remember political threads? What did they bring to the forum...nothing productive. R E A D the threads in the forum. Are they comical in a raunchy way? Yup. Do they reflect poorly on this entire site? Yup. This section is an important ingredient to creating problems..
If you have never been in a position where your running a forum (or attempting to run it well) I can see how its not easy to distinguish why this is an anchor. Don't click on it if you don't like it does NOT apply in this particular case. Every forum we have is a showcase to the world. Right now our war stories forum is a showcase showing that its ok for me to tell you to ****off because I think your opinion/post/question sucks. Its showing prospective members, current members and prospective vendors / vendors that its ok for members to treat each other with no respect. It only takes a few examples of THIS to ruin the countless other forums we have that show members respecting each other.
This is just one step towards fixing a broken car(cobaltss.net). I pray that the rest of the much needed fixes are not met with this kind of resistance.
And if you want examples ofwhats NOT going to help grow the stie, keep reading:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293463-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293465-post12.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5293469-post14.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291162-post2.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291168-post5.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291233-post11.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5291754-post25.html
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5289994-post15.html
I can go on and on and on but I hope the point is sinking in. Will this completely fix the problems I talked about? No...no...but its a start.
While this is a pretty good post, every example you gave and the issue you are harping on does not JUST go on in the war stories section. It is all over this forum. So if this is what you are trying to eliminate, it will not go away with the deletion of one section.
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The reality of this entire matter is that the average cobalt owner is going to be between 16-21. Your going to get dumb bullshit, regardless of a forum sections title and rules. Until you can physically change the maturity level of the average site member this is all quite pointless.
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The reality of this entire matter is that the average cobalt owner is going to be between 16-21. Your going to get dumb bullshit, regardless of a forum sections title and rules. Until you can physically change the maturity level of the average site member this is all quite pointless.
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And this is what makes me mad about the world we live in, everyone wants to bitch about things that really dont effect them one bit. Just to ruin it for everyone else.
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Why should we stray away from trying to make this place better because we'll never win 100% or because its hard?
Edit: what if anything that's in there is of use to us?
Last edited by Mr.N00bLaR; 10-13-2010 at 06:27 PM.