Staged07SS

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I put my cabs in the frezzer before installing them.

Shrunk them up a bit, and made them easier to install. Also, grease them up.

noorj

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A warning to others: dropping the frame for a siezed bolt to CAB sleeve is the only way, cutting the bolt out worked for me but lots of heat (acetylene).

freeze your spherical cabs before install! with a little grease they go in butter smooth.




Thanks to john for this thread and being such a great guy! Really helped me out today, wouldn't have been able to deal with this POS car without him lol.

andrewcarr1993

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I know I need to do this but really don't want to...

ThexGovenor

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Assuming I get the control arms off the cradle no problem, how hard is it too press out the old bushings?

Tennpenn83

It's really not too bad at all, assuming you have access to a shop press. If not, I would take the control arms and bushings to a local machine shop or dealership that you might be in with. Throw $20 their way and call it a day. About 10-15 min of work, if that.

umrdyldo

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How much for a set of control arms with bushings installed?

I assume this is something we have to message Powell about?

I'd purchase a lot of his products if he had a store. I'm lazy I know.

Sox-Fan

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Says $900 a pair here
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/gene...powell-296456/

ThexGovenor

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Well Im here at Ft Lee and luckily they have a press in their auto craft area. So it appears that next weekend ill be driving over there and replacing my bushings, sway bar end links, and rotors/pads. Could be a long day Im assuming I should try to get a shroud on the press that just hits the outside metal parts of the bushing but not the arm. As opposed to cutting out the rubber and then attacking the metal. Fingers crossed my bolts arent seized... the car did just spend 3 years as a DD in michigan for 35k miles.

qwank

$900 buys a lot of Moog bushings at the local parts store. i'll take my chances with those instead.

Powell Race Parts

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the freezing deal works very well. I tried different ways and freezing is easy and works much safer than flame heating. thanks to staged07 SS for the suggestion

Powell Race Parts

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thats for machined spherical arms not arms with leading composite pins etc control arms themselves run about 200 each, so thats 400, Dorman may sell cheaper but they are weak and bend; the LNF ones are cheaper than L:SJ but more difficult to install in an LSJ, so 400 plus shipping and taxes where applicable add trailing cabs at 199 we are running 600 add 245 for the leading composite pins then we are under 900 but have to consider freight. The installation of the parts if you buy the parts from us is no charge. Its about as cheap as one can reasonably expect.
You can buy replacement steel arms, but lately on Rock Auto they have been priced higher than alloy arms.

you can put in solid malibu bushings but they dont fit right ; you can buy Moog ball joints cheaply as well if you want to do the work yourself. But no one can find trailing cabs like ours we are the only folks who make them. A typical production run costs 10,000 dollars so please dont be surprised if I summarise the costs so you can see this is not a high margin rip off.

Amazon may have control arms cheaper, it seems to depend on the moon or something. If I could predict it, I would buy from Amazon . But day in /day out I buy GM parts from Crate Engine Depot. I pay about the same you pay, but I can depend on the GM parts quality and Tom@ced has great customer service.

that is all....lol

Sox-Fan

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was the price for that listed? Did I miss it?

ThexGovenor

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This process scares me a little because my car is my DD and I dont have access to another. If my bolt is F*&ked I cant wait for a new one. Should I order new bolts just in case?

Powell Race Parts

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If you want new bolts you can get them with your order, they are about 12.00 each. But read carefully what I have posted. Your best bet, is to jack the car up, and using a 21 mm socket and a Johnson bar or a 1/2 drive ratchet with a good 24 inch or greater arm. see if the cradle bolt #1 breaks loose easily and #2 immediately drops as you unwind it. If #1 is no, its tough as hell and #2 it does NOT drop as you unwind it, then do this.

On a saturday, get ready and drop cradle. make sure you have a sawzall. cut the bolt out as Noor did. Then insert the new arms and bolts if you purchased from me with lots of anti seize and you will be good.

you will need 15, 16 19 and 21 mm sockets for this job. an angle torque wrench or a black sharpie. So where 25 degrees is called for in the torque specs mark the nut the arm and the socket and after torqueing to the correct spec, tighten the nut ONE FLAT of the hex in travel= 25 degrees

ThexGovenor

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Yeah add the bolts to my order. Ill actually have access to a lift(thank goodness for army auto craft) so hopefully that helps things. I am currently working with Gloria to order the CABs. I sent a confusing email sorry. But yes ill be sure to do this early in the morning so I have plenty of time if it gives me trouble.

qwank

$400 sounds much more reasonable than $900. lol
fwiw, I've changed a ton of control arms at work here in the salt belt, and i've only had one bolt get seized inside a cab sleeve.

Powell Race Parts

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u lucky. I have had three this month and Noor makes 4 i know of lol.

ECaulk

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Looks like I need to start saving now John if i where to mail you a set of LSJ alloy arms for the whole CAB set up would that change the cost? Not sure if the ball joint would need to be changed, I'll leave that one up to your opinion (I have a LNF).

colodude18

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I've had my tcabs sittin in my garage for at least 5 weeks now and the more I read about this the more I think I should have this done somewhere, lol

blueLNFftw

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Just try them. Start on the cradle bolts. If they done break free and move like taking a bolt out should then take it somewhere if you arent comfortable with completing it yourself.

Powell Race Parts

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send the arms, no change just the cost of the parts. ball joints on these arms if the boot is not torn, last for ever... very good part.

JapEatr

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As a note, i have not experienced this in any of our cars in the Texas area. Done dozens of clutches, tons of suspension work and motor swaps, never an issue with any of the 4 cradle bolts seizing.

It must be a environmental issue with snow/salty roads

Melon

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How much for Powell control arms with all new bushings? John I know I keep saying this, but soon I am buying parts from u. birthday is next week and will have some extra cash!

Powell Race Parts

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ya think?

Salt damage is incredible bad. They now wash the freakin roads with brine from tanker trucks. For stupid people who want bare pavement in winter, get killed because they dont buy good snow tires and keep driving and cant drive worth crap anyway, and the families sue the roads dept. for not getting rid of the snow and ice off the roads. Oh and studs are banned as they wreck the roads.

salt damage? a scandal.

texas? bunch of pansy's get ice and the interstate closes down for 100 car wrecks coz

driver mod.


lol
end rant

Powell Race Parts

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orders@powellraceparts.com with your address Gloria give you quote with shipping. In stock choice of new arms, full race spherical or cabs with composite, might even have good used arms as well for better price.

talk to her I be busy