Problems with Trifecta Tuning using no-lift shift
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Problems with Trifecta Tuning using no-lift shift
I just bought a 2009 Cobalt SS/TC a couple of weeks ago, and this past weekend I was using the no-lift shift. The check engine light flickered but never stayed on during my shift from 3rd to 4th. Then I tried from 2nd to 3rd no-lift shift, it started to miss while the check engine light came on and it remained on. I pulled codes and the codes said cylinder misfire. Seven different codes came up cylinder misfire and was saying all cylinders. I changed to factory plugs, gaped at 32 and I repeated it and it done the same thing. I was just wondering if this is the tune causing the problem and has anyone had this problem.
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If you haven't read the article on*no*lift*shift, read that first:*http://www.wot-tunin...ift-nls-anyway/
Many people have reported misfire problems when attempting to*no*lift*shift*after installing an aftermarket tune.**The reason this happens is because most tuners remove the boost pull-back at high RPM to improve performance.
Per the article on*no*lift*shift, the factory tune has to prevent over-revving with about 15psi or less of boost at the rev limiter.**Aftermarket tunes may raise this to as much as 22psi.**Because the ECM uses a combination of fuel and spark cut to prevent over-revving, the ECM has to intervene much more aggressively to prevent an over-rev with 22psi running through the engine vs. 15psi.**This can cause misfires.
There are two ways to solve this problem if it happens:
1.**We can re-instate the boost pull-back at high RPM
2.**The driver can stop using*no*lift*shift*
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If you haven't read the article on*no*lift*shift, read that first:*http://www.wot-tunin...ift-nls-anyway/
Many people have reported misfire problems when attempting to*no*lift*shift*after installing an aftermarket tune.**The reason this happens is because most tuners remove the boost pull-back at high RPM to improve performance.
Per the article on*no*lift*shift, the factory tune has to prevent over-revving with about 15psi or less of boost at the rev limiter.**Aftermarket tunes may raise this to as much as 22psi.**Because the ECM uses a combination of fuel and spark cut to prevent over-revving, the ECM has to intervene much more aggressively to prevent an over-rev with 22psi running through the engine vs. 15psi.**This can cause misfires.
There are two ways to solve this problem if it happens:
1.**We can re-instate the boost pull-back at high RPM
2.**The driver can stop using*no*lift*shift*
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- Vince
Owner, Trifecta Performance Inc.
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Where are u located? And you'll have to do is look on the dealer map and find one cloest to u, otherwise i agre with the fact NLS isnt worth it neat to have but i've never used it not even when racing, btw its also the same if u shift normailly then to use nls, i think nls was like a tenth faster or something or slower dont remember
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I think it may end up tearing something up..... really isnt much difference in it maybe a second but my car runs great really happy with it just had this problem didnt know if the tune caused it or what!
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sounds like you are hitting the rev limiter. you need to find out if he upped your
RPM limits. what are you shifting at? you need to start your shift about
400-500 RPM before your limit. at stock rpm limits, shifting at 5800 works
perfect. gotta shift quickly too.
RPM limits. what are you shifting at? you need to start your shift about
400-500 RPM before your limit. at stock rpm limits, shifting at 5800 works
perfect. gotta shift quickly too.
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