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Old 02-13-2011, 02:01 PM
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22 Psi Trifecta VS 21 PSI GMS1

Wondering if there is a big difference between the gms1 at 21 psi and a trifecta at 22 psi? is it worth it to go for the trifecta? its only 1 psi more but i heard the trifecta makes more hp and tq for every psi.
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Yes it is noticeably more powerful.
i did a 3rd gear pull vs a member here last summer, he had GMS1 i had trifecta 22psi, both of us were stock minus the tune.

YouTube - trifecta22psi_vs_GMS1
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Originally Posted by Mike_peperni
Yes it is noticeably more powerful.
i did a 3rd gear pull vs a member here last summer, he had GMS1 i had trifecta 22psi, both of us were stock minus the tune.

YouTube - trifecta22psi_vs_GMS1
That just looked like cruising to me, couldnt hear anything. Didnt even shake the camera.
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Originally Posted by NDCOBALTSS
Wondering if there is a big difference between the gms1 at 21 psi and a trifecta at 22 psi? is it worth it to go for the trifecta? its only 1 psi more but i heard the trifecta makes more hp and tq for every psi.
psi does not equal power. a 20 psi hp tune might have more power than a 24 psi trifecta tune


however, the trifecta is much more potent than the gms1 tune, see video above
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Originally Posted by Jeffs 06SS 2.4
That just looked like cruising to me, couldnt hear anything. Didnt even shake the camera.
Its a 12$ ebay mini camera lol the sound is crap sorry,


if you hear closely you can hear both engine in same time, i waited for him to floor it first.
Thats the difference we had.

And the camera was double face taped as a head cam on the cap i was wearing.
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The difference is like night and day!!! My dual tune is a GMS1 20psi and a Trifecta 22psi.. With the trifecta the speedometer climbs like champ while the GMS1 takes longer. Also with Trifecta 2nd gear WOT are insane!!!

OP - IT'S ALL WORTH IT!!!!
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Originally Posted by Mike_peperni
Its a 12$ ebay mini camera lol the sound is crap sorry,


if you hear closely you can hear both engine in same time, i waited for him to floor it first.
Thats the difference we had.

And the camera was double face taped as a head cam on the cap i was wearing.
Cool idea man, head cam. Well, thats pretty good for 12 bucks!
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Originally Posted by Mike_peperni
Its a 12$ ebay mini camera lol the sound is crap sorry,


if you hear closely you can hear both engine in same time, i waited for him to floor it first.
Thats the difference we had.

And the camera was double face taped as a head cam on the cap i was wearing.
Did it look like this????



All jokes aside that is a good idea. Way cheaper than a Go pro hd and minus the sound does everything the same. I don't need sound to know whats going on.
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I wonder if Trifecta is better than ZZP
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lol i hope i didnt looked like that

Yeah for 12$ it was worth the money, thats the camera, its even cheaper now:

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It's all about warranty. Personally I can wait since it's not worth the risk IMO. And remember if you get caught don't make excuses to yourself you gotta pay to play :p
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hi my ss tc 2010 is in the garage for the winter and she only as 3800 klm on it .
the gm sg1 if i am right does not void your warrentie does it ?

dont want to have a void warrentie i allredy had the warrentie service my shifter cable ..

sorry for my english i am french ...
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Keep the GMS1 for the warranty. It will not void it.
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ok thanks !
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any after market tune will be better than the stage one if the tuner knows what they are doing. The stage one tune is basically another factory tune with a little more boost and less torque managment. Trifecta offers some good tunes but i personally perfer HPtuners. I like to have the ability to make what ever changes i want when ever i want and have complete controll over my car. If your someone that isnt into tuning your self and plan on doing a few mods then leaving it alone, either way is fine. I have seen great numbers from both programs.
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Trifecta+HPT is where its at
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Originally Posted by 08ShowbaltLS
Trifecta+HPT is where its at
i currently have trifecta dualtune, GMS1 (without sensors) and trifecta 24psi....

my question is what is HPT do that trifecta does not, that makes having one over another a good gain in power ?
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Originally Posted by Mike_peperni
Yes it is noticeably more powerful.
i did a 3rd gear pull vs a member here last summer, he had GMS1 i had trifecta 22psi, both of us were stock minus the tune.

YouTube - trifecta22psi_vs_GMS1
lol were you on the 30 when you took that video...i live very close to that highway...

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Nah... it was in mexico, near Santa Banana. you recognize the 10/30...

Good to see another tuned cobalt around! should meet during the summer.

Depending the tuner you can get more agressive tune with HPT using the trifecta basefile.
Im more than happy with trifecta though right now.
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I bought the GMS1 to keep it in warranty, but the car didn't stay in that zone too long!
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Originally Posted by lebulbe
i currently have trifecta dualtune, GMS1 (without sensors) and trifecta 24psi....

my question is what is HPT do that trifecta does not, that makes having one over another a good gain in power ?
how do you have gms1 with stock sensors?
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isnt GMS1 20psi, trifecta is 22 or 24... the ricer way of looking at it is 1 psi = 10hp.

So your asking, what will you actually notice 10HP, 20HP, 30HP?
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Originally Posted by white2010ss
how do you have gms1 with stock sensors?
you read my mind man!!

Originally Posted by lebulbe
i currently have trifecta dualtune, GMS1 (without sensors) and trifecta 24psi....

my question is what is HPT do that trifecta does not, that makes having one over another a good gain in power ?
please do explain how you accomplished this
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Originally Posted by MS3 2 SSTC
you read my mind man!!



please do explain how you accomplished this
lol.. bc thats a great way to save 500 bucks if its legit!
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Is trifecta even good?


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