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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 08:24 PM
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Holy mother of torque steer

How does everybody deal with the torque steer these cars produce (or at least mine)? Do you hang onto the steering wheel for dear life and hope you can keep the wheels straight? Or is there some magical remedy for it? All suggestions will be much appreciated.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 08:25 PM
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You need to upgrade your suspension
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 08:46 PM
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You need to upgrade your suspension
I can see how the two go together. What kind of suspension upgrades do you have or would recommend?
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 08:48 PM
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Duh nevermind I just seen it in your signature
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 08:48 PM
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Lol yup
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 08:55 PM
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At what power level? I'm Trifecta tuned and the torque steer isn't bad on equal surfaces. I normally just stay in the throttle and keep it generally straight. It's FWD, it won't spin if you're in the gas. It takes a large variance in grip for me to get torque steer so extreme that I back out of the throttle.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 09:04 PM
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He's zzp canned tuned. It all depends how much wear his suspension has and it could be bad
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 09:14 PM
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He's zzp canned tuned. It all depends how much wear his suspension has and it could be bad
The car only has 6,000 miles on it, I bought it with 4,000 miles. It was garage kept and driven once a month. Could the suspension be bad??
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 09:17 PM
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My left arm is more muscular now because I have to hang on to the steering wheel so hard when I'm getting on the gas (sarcasm)
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 09:18 PM
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Hmm just check everything
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 09:22 PM
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Workout?
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 09:37 PM
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Oh, I see you just got this tune. Yeah, it'll take a little getting used to. It's unsettling at first, but when you realize it just wants to straighten itself out, you'll stay in the gas more. Also, 5 year old shocks might come into question in my mind.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 10:01 PM
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Yeah I mean they might be "new" but they haven't been used and just been standing. Also tires could also cause more torque steer than it should In my experience at least
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Snail_SS
Yeah I mean they might be "new" but they haven't been used and just been standing. Also tires could also cause more torque steer than it should In my experience at least
Good point. There's no question that tires are #1 suspect in this case.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 10:17 PM
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Im probably putting close to 370 hp to the pavement and I have no torque steer at all. Powell cab mounts are great. I've never had much ever honestly especially compared to the "hey let's change lanes" ms3 I test drove before buying my cobalt almost 4 years ago.
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Oh, now I realize it's your other post about spinning in 3rd. Yeah, your tires are nearly worthless. Fix that first.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 10:21 PM
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Ohh yeah I remember that now lol yeah its the tires for sure then, but yeah CABs help a bunch
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 11:13 PM
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I don't doubt the CABs as a factor. I recently put on OTTP CABs after 62k miles and it really tightened up the front end. I put on a Powell rotated trans mount earlier this year, too. I swear, the more that parts wear out, the better this car gets. lol
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 02:14 AM
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i actually just rotated my back tires to the front because the back ones had a lot more tread and i took it for a ride and its a lot better, it still breaks loose in 2nd gear though. if i had the money i would do a lot to this car, shocks would be included. i dont know what CABs are but im sure they would help. whats your guys source for parts? i usually just hit up the zzp website.
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 08:14 AM
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CABS are control arm bushings. For that you can get either go powell or like myself I got the ottperformance ones. And yup if your able to get some new tires all around it will help alot with the torque steer
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 09:31 AM
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I installed the Powell TCABs yesterday and torque steer on flats roads is gone. If the road dips it still pulls that way a bit but not nearly as bad
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 09:44 AM
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Yup same here
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 11:17 PM
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I got torque in 2nd at 380whp on nt555s
Watch "pull" on YouTube
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If your on the original Continental ContiSportcontact IIs. They are overpriced garbage. They have as much dry traction as all season tires and cant be used in the snow. I believe they cost like $250 a tire. Your better off with Continental Extremecontact DWS 06 tires, that way you have the same traction but can drive year round lol. They cost like $140 a tire as well and they will last for 50k miles. OR you can do what I did and get a second set of wheels with some really nice sticky summer tires that do work, leaving the all seasons on the stock wheels.





These are amazing ^. As a comparison, I have the DWS tires, they spun through 1st, 2nd, and chirped in 3rd gear if I went 100% throttle. These tires grab in first, alittle chirpy in 2nd, and grab hard in 3rd. Car feels so much faster when your not spinning lol.

These are Dunlap Direzza zII's 235/40/18. I believe they have a new tire "star specs" that replace these now.
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Originally Posted by CudaJoe
If your on the original Continental ContiSportcontact IIs. They are overpriced garbage. They have as much dry traction as all season tires and cant be used in the snow. I believe they cost like $250 a tire. Your better off with Continental Extremecontact DWS 06 tires, that way you have the same traction but can drive year round lol. They cost like $140 a tire as well and they will last for 50k miles. OR you can do what I did and get a second set of wheels with some really nice sticky summer tires that do work, leaving the all seasons on the stock wheels.





These are amazing ^. As a comparison, I have the DWS tires, they spun through 1st, 2nd, and chirped in 3rd gear if I went 100% throttle. These tires grab in first, alittle chirpy in 2nd, and grab hard in 3rd. Car feels so much faster when your not spinning lol.

These are Dunlap Direzza zII's 235/40/18. I believe they have a new tire "star specs" that replace these now.
Ahhh so those are what star specs are....

The shop foreman at my old Subaru dealer has a 2011 WRX, with nothing but a downpipe and a custom self tune, wide wheels with "Star specs", and he is in 3rd place in the standings at Seekonk Speedway Spectator Drags (which is a quick 20 second oval lap rap). He two step launches beats everyone to the first corner and takes the win, only 2 cars that beat him lately are a 600whp VR4 and a 450 whp Eagle Talon, most of the other cars are old muscle cars with around 400-500whp. People still cant believe his car is really just about stock! Says star specs are the best all around tire hes ever used.
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