not sure what it does but ya upside down filter is supposed to be fine

 

Hmmm alright well more than easy enough to give er a shot

 

yea,atleast in the summer time i wont mind the BPV but if i drive it next winter im putting the stock intake back on for the winter.


ive scared 3 people now with the panda sneeze lol

 

I have nothing to offer than my observations, which are that I turned mine upside down and it fixed the CEL immediately. Same in Joe's car. As to why that is I'd have to refer you to a fluid dynamicist.

 

I think it's got something to do with changing the way the air hits the maf sensor. My cell turns on and off though since I put this intake on and mine is at 12:30.

 

oh well it was just curiousity that's all

 

Sorry I don't have the answer. Maybe upside down makes less turbulence?

 

I received my K&N yesterday !! YAY!!

I was just wondering that blue stuff they give with it to put on the bolts is it all that important?

 

It's loctite. I put it on because I don't want my bolts coming loose after all the shaking anne road vibrations

 

No answer for the upside down filter trick, I accidentally came across it when I first got the filter in the first batch shipped out to everyone a couple years ago. I reported it immediately on here and sure enough someone who was curious also tried it out and saw fuel trims shift.

I have a aeroforce interceptor and thats how I noticed it. The position that everyone uses now was based off my observations of rotating the filter in different directions and seeing how it affects the fuel trim skew. Today I can still run my car on the factory tune with this intake with almost 0.0 fuel trims. +/- 2.5

The worst possible position was the one intended by K&N assuming the logos position. anywhere between 11:00 to 3:00 is where you want it. Some cars like it at 12:00, some like it at 1:00, some like it at 11:00. if you get a CEL you should try different rotations. If you have a scan guage like me that can see the trims, monitor them as you move the filter and drive some distance. Maybe you can fine tweak a good spot for your car since not all cars are exactly the same.

 

Word of warning though, with the K&N installed in my car stock tune my car was running EXTREMELY lean, as in the gauge on my friends tuning computer was stuck at the most lean number -25.4% the entire time I was driving. I'd suggest finding a tuner to see if your car is running lean, if it is get the fuel trims adjusted.

The filter also gets dirty as all hell and I can't quite figure out why. I've had it for 5 months or so and good god is that thing black from driving around!

 

My next mod with be an interceptor. I want to see what ny fuel trims are at while running the k&N

 

negative fuel trim is rich. No CEL? you sure your friends software was correct? what were the stfts? they should bounce around. Also was this on Open loop as in "cold start"? The car will more than likely run rich at cold start.

The filter will get dirty, thats what its for All that could be sucked into your motor

 

I just installed my k&n sri with my forge and catless zzp dp...sounds so awesome! anyone wanting a louder blow off sound without losing any hp gain should invest in the k&n! gtn tuned next wkend with James..so excited!

 

best place to get a gsm1?

 

Crate engine depot. They are the only ones who make the plug and play harness. I got mine from them and it took me about a half hour to install the sensors. CED FTW!

 

I installed my SRI .. sounds amazing .. drove it for maybe 20 miles with no CEL .. positioned it at 12h30..

I don't have any tool to measure the fuel trims though .. what would I need to check those? (besides RPD)

 

^^^ id like to know too. i wont be able to get a interceptor for another month or so

 

you can get a dashhawk.. thats what one of my buddies uses.. it plugs into your OBD2 and you can pretty much get any reading you would ever want, also you can clear/read codes with it I believe


just another option

 

Hmm i wonder what they loom like. Ill have to check it out when i get back to work

 

I'm pretty sure + was rich from when I was looking at it. Either way it was running maximum lean that I distinctly remember.

Gremlin85 is my tuner, so ask him I guess? lol

 

i do...lol

 

How can something be positioned at 12:30??? I get 12, 11, 3, etc. But it doesn't have two hands....

 

 

[QUOTE=CmplXty;6466932]I'm pretty sure + was rich from when I was looking at it. Either way it was running maximum lean that I distinctly remember.

+3.2%= the PCM is adding 3.2% more fuel than fuel map says at that rpm/throttle response because the car is running LEAN at that moment.

-3.2%= the PCM is removing 3.2% of the fuel addition that the fuel map says at rpm/throttle response because the car is running RICH at that moment.