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Old 01-26-2015, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by riceburner
Its your floormats causing the issues
Glovebox wear has been known to cause weird issues as well. They just don't last like they used to.
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My cobalt is so fucked
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Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
I will try that. That is what the car does, kind of. The (hz) stay fine, but the air flow will randomly spike.
Wait, is it your VE lb/min air or maf lbs/min air that freaks out?
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You can see it here. This should be a small log of it.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/c8...AF_Harness.hpl
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Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
You can see it here. This should be a small log of it.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/c8...AF_Harness.hpl
I can't download from there at work, I'll grab it after work
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Wow I came here after seeing your post in Parts, lol just wanting to see what the hahn looked like on the whip, turned out to be a 15 page **** show, but a good read none the less. I would be SUPER worried about an electrical issue due to faulty ground or possible chaffed wire harness somewhere. Sorry I can't offer more but good luck.

Know anyone with a Tech2 (a dealer basically) that can hook you up with a hour or two of diag??
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It's a bit weird that the frequency isn't jumping around at the same time. The data you see on hpt isn't going to be updated fast enough to catch all or possibly any glitches however.
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Would a tech 2 help better?

Also, wanna know a new fun fact?
HPT shows a couple degrees of knock retard scattered mid range.
RPD shows 0 consistently.
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Another question I saw when going through this thread, is that stainless clutch line really needed or provide any benefit? I did SS brake lines and I feel like the lines definitely stiffened up pedal feel but also new brake fluid is often overlooked and not replaced leading to squishy pedal too.

Tech 2 might help in seeing any possible electric issues or weak grounds? I'm not for sure about this but these can read SOOOO many more parameters than HPT or any aftermarket gauge/program.

I am seeing KR on my car as well, in fact I will save you my couple of ZZP stories but in general I have found a couple things
1) Best selection of parts
2) Definitely issues with QC and some parts that they don't seem to ever like to admit
3) HORRIBLE customer service especially after the purchase unless you REALLY rag on them (Im not that kind of person but can be)
4) I believe they just are spread too thin, sell too much stuff across too many platforms and simply don't have the business setup 110% efficiently

With that in mind, they have helped and hurt me at times, but it is very hit or miss. My IC kit I got during BF was VERY hard to get installed correctly and in my opinion is still not really installed as it should be, waiting to make a trip there this summer for a dyno tune and to fix my LTFT/KR and loss of MPG after installing the IC kit from BF. I have a friend that works there and he is extremely smart and super cool, again I really think it has to do with the fact they are just too big for their current staff and it really takes a lot of not just bodies, but people that have a god damn clue to run a shop like they have.

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Josh's SS clutch line is awesome and it gives the clutch pedal a firmer feel. It's worth the price for sure.
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Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
Would a tech 2 help better?

Also, wanna know a new fun fact?
HPT shows a couple degrees of knock retard scattered mid range.
RPD shows 0 consistently.
I don't think so. I was thinking along the lines of watching the actual square wave with an oscilloscope instead of reading the process data (graphed frequency) with a scanner. Certain glitches can be seen with HPT though, because I have seen them on my car.

I would personally put on the stock intake, move the MAF, and load the stock tune to eliminate as many variables as possible. I wouldn't worry about running a blow through MAF until all issues were fixed.
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I don't have a stock intake sadly. I am trying to get my hands on a treadstone one right now. I don't want the Hahn intake
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Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
I don't have a stock intake sadly. I am trying to get my hands on a treadstone one right now. I don't want the Hahn intake
I will check later, but I'm pretty sure I have two stock intakes. I can send you one of them for whatever shipping would be.
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Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
I don't have a stock intake sadly. I am trying to get my hands on a treadstone one right now. I don't want the Hahn intake
DO NOT BUY THE TREADSTONE it literally is the biggest piece of **** ever. Treadstone parts are def a JDM thing because none fit correctly. I'm meeting up with my friend for beers tomorrow I'll search the cobalt part corner for it (his garage is a bit messy )
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Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
I don't have a stock intake sadly. I am trying to get my hands on a treadstone one right now. I don't want the Hahn intake
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for the love of god do not buy that intake. it does not fit our car correctly. ask me how I know
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Originally Posted by 1Panel2NV
I will check later, but I'm pretty sure I have two stock intakes. I can send you one of them for whatever shipping would be.
Sweet. I would definitely be greatful for this.
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
DO NOT BUY THE TREADSTONE it literally is the biggest piece of **** ever. Treadstone parts are def a JDM thing because none fit correctly. I'm meeting up with my friend for beers tomorrow I'll search the cobalt part corner for it (his garage is a bit messy )
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for the love of god do not buy that intake. it does not fit our car correctly. ask me how I know
I just realized I meant Dejon. Ecaulk says he should have one at his buddy's house. That is the one I was switching to.
I have no reason for a CAI, especially the crap fitting Hahn one that is hitting 3 different places on my car.

Originally Posted by leemanfor
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for the love of god do not buy that intake. it does not fit our car correctly. ask me how I know
Money for the ZFR is incoming hopefully by this afternoon, otherwise tomorrow. I had to move some cash; sorry for the delay.

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Is there any reason that the MAF on the relocate faces the radiator? Can anyone think of a reason rotating it 90 degrees so that the MAF faced the driver sides would be a problem or cause reading issues?
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Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
I just realized I meant Dejon. Ecaulk says he should have one at his buddy's house. That is the one I was switching to.
I have no reason for a CAI, especially the crap fitting Hahn one that is hitting 3 different places on my car.



Money for the ZFR is incoming hopefully by this afternoon, otherwise tomorrow. I had to move some cash; sorry for the delay.
ok, we fought the treadstone for about an hour on leemanfor's car. Nothing lined up correctly, then he just went to town and cut it into a SRI and relocated the maf
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I had treadstone on my mind because I was looking at their lower CP with MAF relocation.

I want to ditch the CAI set up on my car and have a SRI instead.

Hopefully 1panel2nv has a stock intake for me to so I can install that and see what changes in my log.
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Just don't buy treadstone, again with its JDM stuff so if you think the zzp charge pipe didnt fit right the treadstone is worse.
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Blah. Ok.
I emailed OTTP to see if he is doing relocates yet.
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make a custom one from silicone intakes, I'm thinking about doing that. I dont like the zzp one I'm pretty sure its hitting in more than one spot
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
make a custom one from silicone intakes, I'm thinking about doing that. I dont like the zzp one I'm pretty sure its hitting in more than one spot
That is the issue I am running into. I think it is the cause of some of the knock too. Between the ZZP LC tapping and the HAHN hitting, I think that is where all of the random knock is coming from.

Thing about that is that we will end up with a lot of clamps and couplers at that point.


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