The Official "I'm on a Big Turbo" Thread
10-17-2012, 08:20 AM
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You should get full upper and lower charge piping, intercooler, downpipe, intake, clutch, and thats practically it as long as you don't go aggressive on the tune on 93. Anything else you're looking at a broken stock block over time or a broken stock trans.
10-17-2012, 11:18 AM
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My mod list:
2010 Cobalt SS: ZZP EFR 6758, HP tuned by Css3 @ 24 Psi on e47, Badmab 3" catless downpipe stock resonator no muffler straight piped, KN Short ram intake, CX racing intercooler, Ky stage 3 clutch, ZZP front and rear transmission mounts, CM springs. Nitto Nt05 245/40/18 up front.
10-17-2012, 01:13 PM
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Yes, actually a couple of us are running the ZFR with FBO.
My mod list:
2010 Cobalt SS: ZZP EFR 6758, HP tuned by Css3 @ 24 Psi on e47, Badmab 3" catless downpipe stock resonator no muffler straight piped, KN Short ram intake, CX racing intercooler, Ky stage 3 clutch, ZZP front and rear transmission mounts, CM springs. Nitto Nt05 245/40/18 up front.
My mod list:
2010 Cobalt SS: ZZP EFR 6758, HP tuned by Css3 @ 24 Psi on e47, Badmab 3" catless downpipe stock resonator no muffler straight piped, KN Short ram intake, CX racing intercooler, Ky stage 3 clutch, ZZP front and rear transmission mounts, CM springs. Nitto Nt05 245/40/18 up front.
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ALSO I was reading that are stock turbo manifold with the ZFR can only with-stand 500hp??.. Is that true? If so does this fix thr problem? http://www.performanceautowerks.com/...oducts_id=1899
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10-20-2012, 03:06 AM
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Piston ringland failure, cracked sleeve, blown headgasket. Typical failures usually not related to the tune but the pure power being made on the stock block. Nothing lasts forever. I'd say at ~425whp and 93 on a fully tuned vehicle you should be good for at or over 20,000+ miles depending on the miles on your engine currently. But it all depends on how you run the vehicle. If you're ***** to the walls a lot and want 425-450whp you better be running meth or e47 and make sure your tune is spot on.
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10-25-2012, 03:40 PM
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10-25-2012, 03:53 PM
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1) Just ordered my precision 5858 billet ball bearing .63 A/R with a treadstone stage 4 kit
2) 450whp max
3) Not dynoed but im guessing 320ish
4) Currently 7000rpm but soon to be way higher with built internals
5) Soon to be fully built on a stock block
6) ITS NOT DONE YET INFACT I JUST STARTED BUT ITS ON ITS WAY LOL
7) Soon to be Hpt by CCSS3
2) 450whp max
3) Not dynoed but im guessing 320ish
4) Currently 7000rpm but soon to be way higher with built internals
5) Soon to be fully built on a stock block
6) ITS NOT DONE YET INFACT I JUST STARTED BUT ITS ON ITS WAY LOL
7) Soon to be Hpt by CCSS3
10-25-2012, 05:34 PM
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11-05-2012, 10:36 PM
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1) Just ordered my precision 5858 billet ball bearing .63 A/R with a treadstone stage 4 kit
2) 450whp max
3) Not dynoed but im guessing 320ish
4) Currently 7000rpm but soon to be way higher with built internals
5) Soon to be fully built on a stock block
6) ITS NOT DONE YET INFACT I JUST STARTED BUT ITS ON ITS WAY LOL
7) Soon to be Hpt by CCSS3
2) 450whp max
3) Not dynoed but im guessing 320ish
4) Currently 7000rpm but soon to be way higher with built internals
5) Soon to be fully built on a stock block
6) ITS NOT DONE YET INFACT I JUST STARTED BUT ITS ON ITS WAY LOL
7) Soon to be Hpt by CCSS3
11-06-2012, 11:44 AM
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Thank makes sense especially from a financial standpoint
11-06-2012, 12:52 PM
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i mean everyone goals may change ppl usually want to go up not down depending on driving habits. if you want 450 why not get a 500 or lil higher supported sooner or later you will get use to it and may want more then u have to go about selling ur old turbo and pricing a new one instead of just changing boost pressure or gettin a new tune. Just my opinion of it.
11-06-2012, 03:47 PM
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i mean everyone goals may change ppl usually want to go up not down depending on driving habits. if you want 450 why not get a 500 or lil higher supported sooner or later you will get use to it and may want more then u have to go about selling ur old turbo and pricing a new one instead of just changing boost pressure or gettin a new tune. Just my opinion of it.
11-22-2012, 02:10 PM
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my thing is Id like to make 500+whp BUT at best all I can afford is a stock block and a built internals right now......maybe later on ill get a girdled block and a built trans but those two alone would cause my current build to be way out of my range.........Id like to get a ZZP forged short block but that is also way out of my budget (and like Nfamous60 put it this turbo will never be overworked at 450 and will provide cool air easily!!! FTW
11-22-2012, 02:32 PM
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everyones goals do change... mine were a perfect example. i stepped into a prototyping phase for someone that already had started a billet 5557/5857 setup. however i never truely wanted something that powerful. car ended up making 442whp 25psi 6200rpm on a mustang dyno. it was somewhat fun to drive but was never purely what i wanted.
i came from having a 900whp drag car. at one point it was a daily but when i finished it was no longer a probable daily drive. i searched high and low for evos sti's and such. never found the right sti. found the right evo and the night before i was picking it up someone broke into it at the dealership and robbed close to 10k worth of parts from it. always being a gm i thought about the cobalt but never really wanted the lsj modeled cars. buddy of mine told me they were turbo now so i went and drove it and liked what it had to offer. good gas mileage, suitable daily, sporty looking, handled good. in the end the dealer made an offer i couldnt refuse. however the cobalt no matter how large of a turbo i throw on it would NEVER compare in a straight line to what i had. i mean EVER. when you have gone single digits in a rwd car not a whole lot compares to it lol.
fast forward to the first build. finished it all up was pretty happy with it but it left a lot to be desired out of the car as a whole. plus it got boring doing highway pulls and going straight. i got really into road racing.....all of a sudden i saw the EFR turbos at sema and sierra sierras time attack evo. i had to have one. got my hands on one of the very first efrs to hit the market. all in all when that build was done. the car made 416whp at 6500 at 25psi carrying a very linear powerband all the way to 6500 with a ton of room to grow. in the end i realized 400whp in a cobalt is GREAT and dominant for a road race track car. the car can be dominant in its stock form with a good driver but it does lack in power. ever track event this year
the car was destroyed as most that know me have come to find out. in the end i realized 400whp in a cobalt is GREAT and dominant for a road race track car. the car can be dominant in its stock form with a good driver but it does lack in power. ever track event this year with the new car it was beyond competitive with everything that was out on the track with me.... corvettes, rx7s, hondas, stis, evos, but i saw just how much it lacked in power down the straights when just about every car against a stock cobalt would put lengths on me and i would have to catch them in the turns. this showed me just how fun the car can be without 500+whp and still just be a practical driver.
i drove the previous car EVERY day. summer, fall, winter spring, rain,snow, 1500 mile trips and back, with both big turbo kits on there and it never let me down once and still got GREAT gas mileage.
so now im back with the new cobalt....we will just have to see where it goes
i came from having a 900whp drag car. at one point it was a daily but when i finished it was no longer a probable daily drive. i searched high and low for evos sti's and such. never found the right sti. found the right evo and the night before i was picking it up someone broke into it at the dealership and robbed close to 10k worth of parts from it. always being a gm i thought about the cobalt but never really wanted the lsj modeled cars. buddy of mine told me they were turbo now so i went and drove it and liked what it had to offer. good gas mileage, suitable daily, sporty looking, handled good. in the end the dealer made an offer i couldnt refuse. however the cobalt no matter how large of a turbo i throw on it would NEVER compare in a straight line to what i had. i mean EVER. when you have gone single digits in a rwd car not a whole lot compares to it lol.
fast forward to the first build. finished it all up was pretty happy with it but it left a lot to be desired out of the car as a whole. plus it got boring doing highway pulls and going straight. i got really into road racing.....all of a sudden i saw the EFR turbos at sema and sierra sierras time attack evo. i had to have one. got my hands on one of the very first efrs to hit the market. all in all when that build was done. the car made 416whp at 6500 at 25psi carrying a very linear powerband all the way to 6500 with a ton of room to grow. in the end i realized 400whp in a cobalt is GREAT and dominant for a road race track car. the car can be dominant in its stock form with a good driver but it does lack in power. ever track event this year
the car was destroyed as most that know me have come to find out. in the end i realized 400whp in a cobalt is GREAT and dominant for a road race track car. the car can be dominant in its stock form with a good driver but it does lack in power. ever track event this year with the new car it was beyond competitive with everything that was out on the track with me.... corvettes, rx7s, hondas, stis, evos, but i saw just how much it lacked in power down the straights when just about every car against a stock cobalt would put lengths on me and i would have to catch them in the turns. this showed me just how fun the car can be without 500+whp and still just be a practical driver.
i drove the previous car EVERY day. summer, fall, winter spring, rain,snow, 1500 mile trips and back, with both big turbo kits on there and it never let me down once and still got GREAT gas mileage.
so now im back with the new cobalt....we will just have to see where it goes
11-22-2012, 05:38 PM
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^^That's was some great insight. My goals stay the same for 400/~400. These 500 who cobalts are awesome and i love seeing them smash on gtrs , vettes, etc but I love road racing too and I believe the EFR is a perfect blend of power for that also for dailying. Anything that beats me once I go EFR can have it.
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12-17-2012, 11:02 PM
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If you have or had a turbo swapped TC or even a modified stock turbo please post about it.
Let us know the:
1)WR-3 Proto
2)470-500 on E85 and Meth
3) 412/425...Mustang Dyno
4) 7250
5) Fully built Performance Autowerks Longblock
6) HPtuned by Performance Autowerks
Let us know the:
1)WR-3 Proto
2)470-500 on E85 and Meth
3) 412/425...Mustang Dyno
4) 7250
5) Fully built Performance Autowerks Longblock
6) HPtuned by Performance Autowerks