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Old 03-30-2014, 09:32 AM
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Hahn catback is the best in my opinion..... Mpx one doesn't withstand the elements regardless of it being stainless......last one that came through our shop was corroded and rusty.

That the ldk with the mangled piston
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Originally Posted by Omiotek
Hahn catback is the best in my opinion..... Mpx one doesn't withstand the elements regardless of it being stainless......last one that came through our shop was corroded and rusty.

That the ldk with the mangled piston
Agreed. I love the sound of my Hahn and I usually hate the sound of aftermarket exhausts.
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Turbo XS exhausts are where it's at.
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Yeah man that's the LDK shortblock piston. Multiple failures in the head. You'd think you could trust a head cleaning from a guy that builds $80k race motors but I guess not.

Looking at the greener grass im better off now. My turbo had some shaft play before we put everything back together last time. Took a look in it yesterday and it's way loose and machining its own path inside the housing. So at least I got a brand new turbo.

My concern now is a trans failure. 30,000 miles but I have no idea how long the previous owner was running that insane E85 tune. It doesn't grind and shifts perfectly so I'm hoping I'm ok for a good long time.
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I just read every single page of this post and I must say, you are persistent. I would of threw in the towl after the first swap. I commend you on your progress, seriously.
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Originally Posted by brianhud1991
I just read every single page of this post and I must say, you are persistent. I would of threw in the towl after the first swap. I commend you on your progress, seriously.
Thank you. For more entertainment read the thread linked on the first page. This is only half the story.
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Originally Posted by Piston3
Yeah man that's the LDK shortblock piston. Multiple failures in the head. You'd think you could trust a head cleaning from a guy that builds $80k race motors but I guess not.

Looking at the greener grass im better off now. My turbo had some shaft play before we put everything back together last time. Took a look in it yesterday and it's way loose and machining its own path inside the housing. So at least I got a brand new turbo.

My concern now is a trans failure. 30,000 miles but I have no idea how long the previous owner was running that insane E85 tune. It doesn't grind and shifts perfectly so I'm hoping I'm ok for a good long time.
Is the block or head salvageable?

You let your head guy know he sucks?
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The head is worthless. It even chipped the cams. 3 followers broke off, seals and a spring just hanging out inside there. The block is salvageable if it could be bored .30 or so I'd say but does anyone even make bigger pistons for cobalts?

I have an LNF block too that needs a sleeve and piston on #4. 2 & 3 are new pistons and sleeves, and 1 is original at 130 compression tested so I wouldn't trust it. Not sure if I should just scrap it all or not.

The head guy has been at it for 30 years, personal friend of my Dad's and built all his winning race motors. Hard to know precisely what happened and point the finger at a friend.

Businesses don't like to give away money or replace parts for free. I made the decision a long time ago to buy parts instead of arguing over fault and buying a lawyer. I could have sued the dealership for selling me a car that wasn't setup to run gasoline but the lines between seller and buyer responsibility are a little blurry and not something I'd care to wager on.
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Originally Posted by Piston3
The head is worthless. It even chipped the cams. 3 followers broke off, seals and a spring just hanging out inside there. The block is salvageable if it could be bored .30 or so I'd say but does anyone even make bigger pistons for cobalts?

I have an LNF block too that needs a sleeve and piston on #4. 2 & 3 are new pistons and sleeves, and 1 is original at 130 compression tested so I wouldn't trust it. Not sure if I should just scrap it all or not.

The head guy has been at it for 30 years, personal friend of my Dad's and built all his winning race motors. Hard to know precisely what happened and point the finger at a friend.

Businesses don't like to give away money or replace parts for free. I made the decision a long time ago to buy parts instead of arguing over fault and buying a lawyer. I could have sued the dealership for selling me a car that wasn't setup to run gasoline but the lines between seller and buyer responsibility are a little blurry and not something I'd care to wager on.
I wouldn't personally buy the LNF block but the LDK would probably have some interest from the community. How's the LDK running? Have you taken it on any normal driving yet?
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No regular driving yet. The PCM has to go back to ZZP to get adjusted for the LDK. There are some differences, like the 14% bigger injectors. A blip of the throttle and she goes to 10.0 afr lol. But I wanted to be able to start it obviously so I held off shipping it out until tomorrow. It's all boxed up and ready to go.
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The Hahn exhaust I've always wanted.
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My LDK doesn't have bigger injectors lol did you get the zzp ones?
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Originally Posted by ctn2mb
My LDK doesn't have bigger injectors lol did you get the zzp ones?
No. Mine came with them. ZZP specifically told me I would need a re-tune for them. You bought a complete valve cover to oil pan LDK? How long ago and how's it holding up? Im praying it's bulletproof!
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I had the first one they put in the cobalt, back in June of last year. I haven't had any issues with it thus far. Only at 450whp tho.
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^^^ whats your setup?
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Originally Posted by ctn2mb
My LDK doesn't have bigger injectors lol did you get the zzp ones?
The zzp injectors are just opel injectors
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Yeah doesn't this thing come out of an Opel Insignia?
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Originally Posted by Omiotek
The zzp injectors are just opel injectors
im aware... but the LDK does NOT come with them... and currently I have a LDK/ZFR with a built 4.45 trans on E47.
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I understand......all I said was they were opel injectors....some guys think zzp builds these

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Oh I'm well aware they don't make them, originally they kind of advertised it like they did but there definitely Opel ones.
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Originally Posted by Piston3
Just had to make a slight bend on the ZZP lower charge pipe for proper fitment. Took 3 guys, a vice, and a 4 foot pipe. That's some strong piping...
that what she said..........sorry couldn't help it
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I swear to god, this better not be in vain. You better go out there and throw some sand in some v8 vaginas



put some vids of this bad boy up and runnin when you get everything sorted out. Im thinking about a LDK swap next year to replace my high mileage LNF
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I gave the throttle a quick stab a couple times not even to the floor just to see and my afr would drop to high 9 low 10s. They probably wouldn't ask for my pcm back if they were not larger. I'm freaked out now though because if they trim fuel out thinking they are bigger....
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Btw I thought the ldk was in the insignia
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Originally Posted by Omiotek
Btw I thought the ldk was in the insignia
That's what everything I've checked into points to. I looked up some part numbers and diagrams and it all looks to be a match.

I will have to email Matt and get this injector question settled.

6 hours is a very long drive in a car I don't trust. Given the load of crap I've been through would you be comfortable tuning this thing? Chicago is much much closer...
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we are booked solid through tthis month but I can probablly do base tune cheap and a dyno tune later.


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