Some LNF 2.0 SS/TC Cobalt Questions
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Some LNF 2.0 SS/TC Cobalt Questions
1.) Is the body the same as the SS/SC?
2.) Will it have a option to come with the high rise spolior?
3.) Is the 2.0 LNF a forged motor?
4.) If it is a forged motor what exactly is forged?
5.) If it is forged does this means you could use N02 on a stock motor safely?
6.) How much boost does the turbo produce on the stock setup?
7.) Are the axles differant considering the strength of the SS/SC axles with less power?
8.) What parts will be exchangable with the SS/SC?
9.) Is it true that it comes with Brembo brakes and will it be possible to fit these on a SS/SC?
If you know answer them because it helps me decide if I want one or not
2.) Will it have a option to come with the high rise spolior?
3.) Is the 2.0 LNF a forged motor?
4.) If it is a forged motor what exactly is forged?
5.) If it is forged does this means you could use N02 on a stock motor safely?
6.) How much boost does the turbo produce on the stock setup?
7.) Are the axles differant considering the strength of the SS/SC axles with less power?
8.) What parts will be exchangable with the SS/SC?
9.) Is it true that it comes with Brembo brakes and will it be possible to fit these on a SS/SC?
If you know answer them because it helps me decide if I want one or not
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1.) Is the body the same as the SS/SC?
2.) Will it have a option to come with the high rise spolior?
3.) Is the 2.0 LNF a forged motor?
4.) If it is a forged motor what exactly is forged?
5.) If it is forged does this means you could use N02 on a stock motor safely?
6.) How much boost does the turbo produce on the stock setup?
7.) Are the axles differant considering the strength of the SS/SC axles with less power?
8.) What parts will be exchangable with the SS/SC?
9.) Is it true that it comes with Brembo brakes and will it be possible to fit these on a SS/SC?
If you know answer them because it helps me decide if I want one or not
2.) Will it have a option to come with the high rise spolior?
3.) Is the 2.0 LNF a forged motor?
4.) If it is a forged motor what exactly is forged?
5.) If it is forged does this means you could use N02 on a stock motor safely?
6.) How much boost does the turbo produce on the stock setup?
7.) Are the axles differant considering the strength of the SS/SC axles with less power?
8.) What parts will be exchangable with the SS/SC?
9.) Is it true that it comes with Brembo brakes and will it be possible to fit these on a SS/SC?
If you know answer them because it helps me decide if I want one or not
- not sure
- not sure
- Yes, the basis of LNF is the EcoTec GenII engine which was first used in the LE5 2.4L VVT engine. The GenII block is superior to the GenI in several ways which were the LSJ and 2.2L engines. The items you find forged on the LSJ are also forged in the LNF along with several other improvements.
- Connecting rods and crankshaft are forged.
- Once you figure out how to safely use NO2 with DI maybe.
- Up to 20 psi stock. BSR tune bumps it to 23 psi.
- not sure
- Probably not much of anything. The VVT, DI, and Turbo alter a lot of this engine compared to the LSJ.
- Not sure
The GM media page is your best friend;
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...2008/08car.htm
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i can answer one and two and if you look at the pictures of the ss/tc the body is the same as the ss/sc from what i can see and tehre is an option to have the high rise spoiler.
the other 2 that brentil could not answer i cannot as well.
the axels i am going to guess are different and the brakes i have absolutly no clue that will have to wait for it to actually come out to find out
the other 2 that brentil could not answer i cannot as well.
the axels i am going to guess are different and the brakes i have absolutly no clue that will have to wait for it to actually come out to find out
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1.) Is the body the same as the SS/SC?
2.) Will it have a option to come with the high rise spolior?
Similar body Style, and it appears the red on has the high-rise:
3.) Is the 2.0 LNF a forged motor?
4.) If it is a forged motor what exactly is forged?
Steel crankshaft, Forged connecting rods, Aluminum cylinder head with stainless steel intake valves and sodium-filled exhaust valves.
5.) If it is forged does this means you could use N02 on a stock motor safely?
We wont know until the car comes out.
6.) How much boost does the turbo produce on the stock setup?
The car produces boost of 20PSI stock, 23 with tune, and GM racing has a 26PSI tune
7.) Are the axles differant considering the strength of the SS/SC axles with less power?
There are rumors of different axles, but no conformation.
8.) What parts will be exchangable with the SS/SC?
Most parts of the parts are going to be the same on the ss/sc & tc. The parts that are different probably wont be swappable.
9.) Is it true that it comes with Brembo brakes and will it be possible to fit these on a SS/SC?
Yes 12.5" front 4-pistion, and 11.5" rear 1-piston vented. Again, we won't know about swapping until the car is released & we can get a look at the parts.
If you know answer them because it helps me decide if I want one or not
2.) Will it have a option to come with the high rise spolior?
Similar body Style, and it appears the red on has the high-rise:
3.) Is the 2.0 LNF a forged motor?
4.) If it is a forged motor what exactly is forged?
Steel crankshaft, Forged connecting rods, Aluminum cylinder head with stainless steel intake valves and sodium-filled exhaust valves.
5.) If it is forged does this means you could use N02 on a stock motor safely?
We wont know until the car comes out.
6.) How much boost does the turbo produce on the stock setup?
The car produces boost of 20PSI stock, 23 with tune, and GM racing has a 26PSI tune
7.) Are the axles differant considering the strength of the SS/SC axles with less power?
There are rumors of different axles, but no conformation.
8.) What parts will be exchangable with the SS/SC?
Most parts of the parts are going to be the same on the ss/sc & tc. The parts that are different probably wont be swappable.
9.) Is it true that it comes with Brembo brakes and will it be possible to fit these on a SS/SC?
Yes 12.5" front 4-pistion, and 11.5" rear 1-piston vented. Again, we won't know about swapping until the car is released & we can get a look at the parts.
If you know answer them because it helps me decide if I want one or not
The GM media page is your best friend;
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...2008/08car.htm
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...2008/08car.htm
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Just going off typical OEM engineering logic . The brakes will be swappable . I cant see them spending the high cost of completely engineering new caliper brackets when they can design the new calipers to fit the pre existing holes .
The LNF would pysically swap into the 05-7 cars . The killer here is the electronics . It would be insanely easier to just buy a wrecked 2008 and swap over the complete wire harness , speedo cluster , radio and everything else tied to the PCM and vin # . The LNF pcm will not beable to communicate with the 05-07 body control module and without that the rest of the car is useless .
Unfortunately CAN based GM electronics have become so integreted with every aspect of the car , its quite difficult to modify .
Lastly , the axles for 2008 are new designs . They focused on dampening the harmonics that traveled thru the axles caused by wheel hop . The harmonics is what caused them to crack in the old design .
The LNF would pysically swap into the 05-7 cars . The killer here is the electronics . It would be insanely easier to just buy a wrecked 2008 and swap over the complete wire harness , speedo cluster , radio and everything else tied to the PCM and vin # . The LNF pcm will not beable to communicate with the 05-07 body control module and without that the rest of the car is useless .
Unfortunately CAN based GM electronics have become so integreted with every aspect of the car , its quite difficult to modify .
Lastly , the axles for 2008 are new designs . They focused on dampening the harmonics that traveled thru the axles caused by wheel hop . The harmonics is what caused them to crack in the old design .
They could be the knuckles off of the Epsilon cars, they would fit with minor modifications, are stronger, and are already in production. Also have the same bolt pattern.
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Definately not streetable. I'm sure 24.5psi is though.
Only one way to find out.
Seriously though, a turbo upgrade is needed for above 23psi for long term reliability.
Definately good info on the axles.
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