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SynapseTurbo 06-17-2008 06:44 PM

Synapse Motorsport Cobalt Development
 
We just received our Cobalt SS/TC today from the dealer. We bought this Cobalt because we saw a platform the has a lot of potential with some aftermarket development. With such a new platform there are a lot of challenges to overcome and we are eager to dig into developing high quality parts. We will start with the bolt ons everyone is looking for such as a downpipe, intercooler piping, upgraded intercoolers, etc. We dont plan on stopping there though, we intend to develop upgraded turbo kits as well for more power.

So with 37 miles on the clock we put the cobalt on the dyno to get a baseline before any modifications. The powerband is very impressive to say the least. The car seems to be underrated in power from the factory. The car layed down 262 ftlbs at the wheels, and 240whp.

Here are some pictures of our car, as well as a dynograph.

http://www.synapseturbo.com/gallery/...95f991_800.jpg
http://www.synapseturbo.com/gallery/...8ac73b_800.jpg
http://www.synapseturbo.com/gallery/...2a41cf_800.jpg
http://www.synapseturbo.com/gallery/...3b7cdb_800.jpg
http://www.synapseturbo.com/gallery/...5c7d1f_800.jpg
http://www.synapseturbo.com/gallery/...8b9dc6_800.jpg
http://www.synapseturbo.com/gallery/...ed13a1_800.jpg

Cobaltss/TC 06-17-2008 06:49 PM

Very nice, keep us posted on the parts

Zdeuce4 06-17-2008 06:51 PM

:eek::eek: 262 at the wheels?!?!?!

krispy 06-17-2008 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Zdeuce4 (Post 2480248)
:eek::eek: 262 at the wheels?!?!?!

torque

ItalianJoe1 06-17-2008 06:54 PM

And on a dynopak. They read...different.

JCswoosher2 06-17-2008 06:55 PM

240 Whp

boostking 06-17-2008 07:27 PM

very nice! now if my damn car would get here already!!!!!!!!!!!!

spike 06-17-2008 08:13 PM

saved

Darkmanx 06-17-2008 09:07 PM

nice numbers ........

pimpnwink 06-17-2008 09:13 PM

it doesnt hit the 260 hp mark that was said doesnt that mean that its over rated
lets see wat it does after break-in

NvM reading > me


Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1 (Post 2480256)
And on a dynopak. They read...different.

that they do people need to learn that

BACK2GM 06-17-2008 09:49 PM

Remember street tuner challenge? The s/c cobalt laid down 212 whp stock on the same dyno.
So I would say that these numbers are pretty accurate.

Maxim_X 06-17-2008 09:51 PM

Synapse? As in synapse engineering? If so I'm running your WG and BOV on my custom turbo cobalt.

ItalianJoe1 06-17-2008 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by BACK2GM (Post 2481009)
Remember street tuner challenge? The s/c cobalt laid down 212 whp stock on the same dyno.
So I would say that these numbers are pretty accurate.

Unless it was at the same shop on the same day, you can't compare them. I've seen Dynopaks read high, low, and inbetween. You can make them say whatever you want. I'd like to see a stock SS/SC or something as a reference point on the same dyno, just for fun.

Either way, the SS/TC should be near that area, just sayin. 240whp is pretty close to what I would expect. The low end torque curve is very impressive as well.

BACK2GM 06-17-2008 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1 (Post 2481024)
Unless it was at the same shop on the same day, you can't compare them. I've seen Dynopaks read high, low, and inbetween. You can make them say whatever you want. I'd like to see a stock SS/SC or something as a reference point on the same dyno, just for fun.

Either way, the SS/TC should be near that area, just sayin. 240whp is pretty close to what I would expect. The low end torque curve is very impressive as well.

Yep yep I just brought it up in case people were curious about what a stock
s/c would put down on a dynopack even if they werent on the same day or dyno.
better than nothing I guess.....:cssNET:

jdbunch08SS 06-17-2008 10:15 PM

well the 260 hp was crank from the SAE certified testing. I'm impressed its 260 tq to the wheels too, impressive, lets get the aftermarket flowing for these cars. I still wanna see numbers from a dynojet or a mustang dyno. Whats average hp/tq reading for the stage two guys?

impulseballer 06-17-2008 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by Maxim_X (Post 2481017)
Synapse? As in synapse engineering? If so I'm running your WG and BOV on my custom turbo cobalt.

different co brotha

Lycan 06-17-2008 10:20 PM

Sweet its nice to see a Developer go out and buy a brand new car to start working on.
As for it being on a dynopak who cares, its what they have to do testing on, which will help them
progress the cars aftermarket future.

when it comes to sc vs tc once again why bother with the mud throwing.

yes the SC people are proud of their cars, as the TC people will be as well.

each side needs to have respect for each other. One day a SC will line up with a TC and they will have it out. of course they will then need to post videos or be banned.

my 2 cents...

SynapseTurbo 06-17-2008 10:36 PM

i believe we have had an ion redline on the dyno before, im gonna see if i can grab the graph from that as something of a reference.

every dyno is going to read different. its just a reference value to gauge how each change makes a difference. the numbers themselves dont hold much value without something to compare them to.

We are a different company than synapse engineering.

originaladrian 06-17-2008 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by SynapseTurbo (Post 2481203)
i believe we have had an ion redline on the dyno before, im gonna see if i can grab the graph from that as something of a reference.

every dyno is going to read different. its just a reference value to gauge how each change makes a difference. the numbers themselves dont hold much value without something to compare them to.

We are a different company than synapse engineering.

exactly!

chris88z24 06-17-2008 10:47 PM

Hey Synapse, want to dyno my SS S/C for comparison to the T/C? I'm sure that will shut up the naysayers ;) BTW, I like what you did with brians Prelude. Man that thing was fun to drive. :twothumbs And quality craftsmanship, as usual from Synapse.

For anyone doubting Synapse.. this place is nothing but high quality work. They know what they're talking about when it comes to turbocharging, trust me.

rukkee 06-17-2008 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by chris88z24 (Post 2481233)
Hey Synapse, want to dyno my SS S/C for comparison to the T/C? I'm sure that will shut up the naysayers ;) BTW, I like what you did with brians Prelude. Man that thing was fun to drive. :twothumbs And quality craftsmanship, as usual from Synapse.

For anyone doubting Synapse.. this place is nothing but high quality work. They know what they're talking about when it comes to turbocharging, trust me.

I don't think anyone is doubting Synapse at all. The statement was about the dynopack.

SynapseTurbo 06-17-2008 10:58 PM

sure chris give me a call at the shop tomorrow and we will work something out if you want.

chris88z24 06-17-2008 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by rukkee (Post 2481281)
I don't think anyone is doubting Synapse at all. The statement was about the dynopack.

I'm just saying it now to get it overwith because I know people will do it. :lol:

chris88z24 06-17-2008 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by SynapseTurbo (Post 2481288)
sure chris give me a call at the shop tomorrow and we will work something out if you want.

Alright.. tomorrow's looking kind of crappy since I have a ton of stuff to take care of, and then work. How about Thursday or Friday? I think it would be nice to compare the two cars (on the same dyno) to see the gains of the turbo 'balt vs. the supercharged model.

SynapseTurbo 06-17-2008 11:08 PM

the dyno dynamics is a good dyno. it is also a load bearing dyno like the dynapack. very good for tuning.

chris i didnt necessarily mean it had to be tomorrow, just if you wanted to call to work out a good time to get it on the dyno we would be more than willing. Free of charge.


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