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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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Cool Trifecta tune vs GMS1

I currently have the stage one upgrade from gm, I am wondering if anyone knows if its worth it to get a trifecta tune? The Trifecta dealer said they can just leave the stage one on there and I can switch between the two via the cruise control button. Has anyone done this? I am mostly looking for something faster than gm stage one...is the Trifecta tune worth it? thanks
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 02:56 PM
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There was a dyno day a gms1 got mid 260whp 280's trq

I had a trifecta tune it got 289whp and 311trq
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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umm yea the trifecta tune is woth it!!!! its a hugh difference from gms1, and yea you can still keep the gms1 tune as your low boost feature through the cruise control trigger or if you want it can be activated through comp mod as well, but everyone seems to like the cruise button lol, what other mods do you have besides gms1??
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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if you do not care about your warranty, then yes, it is worth it.

if you DO care about your warranty, its not worth it.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HB_SS/TC
There was a dyno day a gms1 got mid 260whp 280's trq

I had a trifecta tune it got 289whp and 311trq
you get outta here with that nice evo!!!!
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Grishbok
if you do not care about your warranty, then yes, it is worth it.

if you DO care about your warranty, its not worth it.
depends on how long the warrenty is for and how far into it he is or how often he takes it in for service (bein a cobalt lol) if trifectra is worth it or not...
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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I don't care about warranty...and I have charge pipe, k and n intake, catless dp, and straight piped exhaust. Do they recommend a better clutch with the Trifecta? How much boost is the Trifecta?
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 04:04 PM
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umm yea the trifecta tune is woth it!!!! its a hugh difference from gms1, and yea you can still keep the gms1 tune as your low boost feature through the cruise control trigger or if you want it can be activated through comp mod as well, but everyone seems to like the cruise button lol, what other mods do you have besides gms1??
I have a charge pipe, catless dp, k and n intake, and straight piped exhaust. How much boost does the Trifecta produce?
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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I had the GMS1 and went trifecta. I did it for the warranty because the trifecta switchable tune is hidden from the dealer in almost every scenario (unless they actually send your ECU in). Couple of things.
1) You will love how much more power you have with Trifecta. It is a huge difference.
2) You will probably end up leaving your cruise(tune) on all the time. You'll only turn it off when someone else is driving your car. Or when you bring it in for warranty work.
3) DO NOT GO ABOVE 24-25PSI ON YOUR TUNE!!! You risk blowing your engine within the year. <-- I say this because a number of people have, not because of anything else.
4) If you don't care about warranty, then HPTuners is a good way to go also. There are some very good HPTuners out there (BYT and Term2 are well known) and they can get more power for you than a Trifecta tune. They cannot do certain things that Trifecta can but they are still very effective.
5) If you want to, you can do a combo tune of Trifecta+HPTuners. This is a really great option and something to consider.

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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Sweet thanks for the help guys...Trifecta it is!
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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I have gm tune and got bored with it quick and then got trifecta and makes you fall inlove all over ago
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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I have gm tune and got bored with it quick and then got trifecta and makes you fall inlove all over again
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Theres a big difference, i did a 3rd gear pull on video vs snowblade (a member here...) he have GMS1, mine have trifecta 22 psi, we are both stock minus GMS1 or trifecta tune...

YouTube - trifecta22psi_vs_GMS1
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Grishbok
if you do not care about your warranty, then yes, it is worth it.

if you DO care about your warranty, its not worth it.
That statement is primitive, the truth is:

The Trifecta tune is hidden from the GM Tech II Tool which is what they use to check/scan the ECU at the dealership. However if they were to send your ECU in to GM Headquarters in the event something serious happend they could then discover that your car has been tuned unless...... you buy the Trifecta Dealer Kit it's an additional $200 above the cost of the tune but it's the best investment you can make, with the kit you can flash back to stock before dealer visits if your concerned.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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That video is so dang quiet... I could barely hear the cars haha.. Mine is so darn loud and sexy sounding now.

A trifecta is a great tune. OP you should be very happy with it. Later if you hunger for more power get a Trifecta tunable base and a HP tunes file over that... You will find that to be pretty much the best setup for power.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 06:31 PM
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i have gms1... it's the way to go to keep your warranty but ya hptuners or trifecta is good... HPTuners done by BYT or Terminator2 are very good and so is Vince with trifecta
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RyRidesMotox
That video is so dang quiet... I could barely hear the cars haha.. Mine is so darn loud and sexy sounding now.

A trifecta is a great tune. OP you should be very happy with it. Later if you hunger for more power get a Trifecta tunable base and a HP tunes file over that... You will find that to be pretty much the best setup for power.
Yeah lol thats a pretty cheap 12$ mini camera i bought on ebay, the sound quality is bad very hard to hear the engine sounds...


Heres a video i did with another camera to show stock versus tuned back to back if it can also give an idea for the OP...

YouTube - tune trifecta on a cobalt TC
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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Trifecta FTW! I have had it for over a year now & couldn't be any happier w/it. I like the fact you can hide it from factory, unless they know about it & try to put your car into trifecta mode then just smile & shrug your shoulders lol. My dealership doesnt give me problems w/my mods, infact they all gather around it everytime I bring it in. Nothing but compliments I get from them, mine is the only lnf they ever get to see along w/a local lsj that I have yet to see around. Then again I take good care of my car & don't beat the **** out of it, the general manager there told me he don't care of the mods I have just as long as my car doesn't look like its been beat on. Funny thing is I see him at our local drag strip occasionally. I feel weird about it but he always gives me props on my runs & what I have done w/the car. I hope you enjoy your trifecta tune as much as I am!
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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haha i hada watch that twice to figure out your speedo is in km lol
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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Yeah if i could do 90-160 mph in that time id be VERY happy! lol
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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haha yea i was like woa wtf man lol im still on this same debate to be honest with you gms1 trifecta or hpt
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by NDCOBALTSS
I have a charge pipe, catless dp, k and n intake, and straight piped exhaust. How much boost does the Trifecta produce?
if its a dropin k&n filter personally i wouldnt go over 22psi, but if its an actual cai then 23-24psi maxx!

i havnt heard of as many blown motors and blown turbos associated with goin above 25 psi, 25 itself is edging on not being efficient and nothing over it is effecient with the stock turbo....im on a 16-23 selectable tune, as are most people i sell tunes to, the low boost can vary for whatever you want from 14-18 or maybe even 14-20 but idk y you'd have a low boost settin so close to the high boost....
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:19 AM
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i do alot of track driving and daily driving never gonna dyno queen it or drag it so could i do a trifecta tune for like 20-21? and low boost in 1st gear
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 09sscalicobalt
i do alot of track driving and daily driving never gonna dyno queen it or drag it so could i do a trifecta tune for like 20-21? and low boost in 1st gear
low boost 20 and high 21??

at the track i use my 16psi for traction purposes lol (drag strip) and when i hit 2nd gear its high tune (23) all the way to the end, or its high tune for roll races 30mph or above...

all i really use my low boost for is dd'ing and traction at the track or from digs in general

but 22 would be perfect for what your tryin to accomplish! and maybe 16 low boost if im understanding ur question...
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:57 AM
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well i dont do drag racing i do road racing and i dont have lsd
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