08-10 SS Turbocharged General Discussion Discuss the 2008 - 2009 Chevy Cobalt SS Turbocharged. On sale since the second quarter of 2008.

Warm weather = Sluggish Car

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-28-2010, 04:08 PM
  #1  
Premium Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
rukkee's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-21-06
Location: Western NY
Posts: 6,574
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Warm weather = Sluggish Car

Anyone else think they lost 30 WHP since the hot weather has started ? My car feels like it lost a ton of power ..... desn't even want to spin in 2nd from a 40 roll anymore 8( How are your cars in 90+ degree heat? .... and do you think a better intercooler would make any difference. thx
Old 05-28-2010, 04:09 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
CobaltVenomSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-20-07
Location: Tyler,Texas
Posts: 11,676
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
intercooler will make a huge difference
Old 05-28-2010, 04:10 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
SILVER_SS/SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-17-09
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 719
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
mine feels the same way
Old 05-28-2010, 04:12 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
SSlobalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-22-09
Location: Kathmandu
Posts: 5,989
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
If it's humid and hot, I feel a difference. If it's just hot, I don't feel any difference unless I've been hammering on it for a while. Needz good intercoolerz.
Old 05-28-2010, 04:13 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
ssyellow's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-20-09
Location: Michigan
Posts: 4,323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Warm weather = warm roads = more traction?
Old 05-28-2010, 04:21 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Terminator2's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-25-08
Location: Florida
Posts: 12,478
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by rukkee
Anyone else think they lost 30 WHP since the hot weather has started ? My car feels like it lost a ton of power ..... desn't even want to spin in 2nd from a 40 roll anymore 8( How are your cars in 90+ degree heat? .... and do you think a better intercooler would make any difference. thx
My car also feels like it has lost 30 whp. Still spins some in 2nd but not like it did when it was 30-40* cooler here. I also have much stickier tires on the car now so traction is much improved.

Originally Posted by CobaltVenomSS
intercooler will make a huge difference
Stock IC is pretty efficient actually. My IAT2s are about the same with my stock IC vs the Synapse IC.

Last edited by Terminator2; 05-28-2010 at 04:21 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Old 05-28-2010, 04:22 PM
  #7  
New Member
 
arizbea's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-16-10
Location: Allen, Texas
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
But luckily, everyone else's cars will lose horsepower too so we can still waste them.
Old 05-28-2010, 04:24 PM
  #8  
Vtec Rep
Platinum Member
 
BPacak's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-11-09
Location: Parma, OH
Posts: 27,905
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
i think it runs alot better. not humid though.
Old 05-28-2010, 04:25 PM
  #9  
Member
 
stevessvt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-25-09
Location: FL
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yup, very noticeable. I wonder if stock cars that learned down over winter, learn up now that its so hot.
Old 05-28-2010, 04:54 PM
  #10  
Platinum Member
iTrader: (3)
 
donkeyballs's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-08-10
Location: buffalo
Posts: 4,222
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by stevessvt
Yup, very noticeable. I wonder if stock cars that learned down over winter, learn up now that its so hot.
My car runs like **** ! 4000 rpm falls on its face I just have Kn drop in, but its been running rough for a couple weeks now. I have been spiking to 20psi so i guess it could be trying to make up for it.. I have tried several things but still runs like crap might have boost leak i don't know???
Old 05-28-2010, 04:55 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Rissa's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-06-08
Location: So Cal
Posts: 24,621
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
My car likes it right around 70 degrees.
Old 05-28-2010, 05:18 PM
  #12  
Vtec Rep
Platinum Member
 
BPacak's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-11-09
Location: Parma, OH
Posts: 27,905
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
mine likes it right around here...


hahah yeah right
Old 05-28-2010, 08:15 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
SSlobalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-22-09
Location: Kathmandu
Posts: 5,989
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
104 in Ohio? Dayum!
Old 05-28-2010, 08:17 PM
  #14  
Vtec Rep
Platinum Member
 
BPacak's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-11-09
Location: Parma, OH
Posts: 27,905
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by SSlobalt
104 in Ohio? Dayum!
it was right when i got in my car and it was sitting there for a little. it was only like 87. idk why it was all the way up to 104 haha
Old 05-28-2010, 09:29 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
raynrishad's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-01-09
Location: Rio Rancho NM
Posts: 1,304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
No problems here. Still feels as strong as ever. No humidity here though. Yay for New Mexico!
Old 05-28-2010, 10:18 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
slowstang's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-06-08
Location: east coast
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ssyellow
warm weather = warm roads = more traction?
winner!
Old 05-28-2010, 10:57 PM
  #17  
Member
 
tmharsh's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-26-09
Location: MI
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If it's running sluggish in hot weather, then it's probably knock retard. Do you have that display deal and does it display KR or timing? I wouldn't know, I have a sedan.
Old 05-28-2010, 11:01 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
tanelk's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-07-07
Location: tx
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
my car read 105 and it wasnt sitting parked, i was driving on the freeway. i couldnt believe how freaking hot it has gotten, cant even roll down the windows while on the freeway cus all the hot air will cook me
Old 05-28-2010, 11:20 PM
  #19  
New Member
 
mikko's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-28-09
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Here in Puerto Rico its most of the time above 90's so I basically never had the opportunity to test it on colder weather :^( It really sucks especially when it gets 94ish to 100+ you can really feel the car really get sluggish
Old 05-28-2010, 11:27 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
DoMiStIc_RuSh_06's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-29-06
Location: New Minas, Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 4,105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have noticed somewhat the same thing. My car will barely spin in second anymore.....
Old 05-28-2010, 11:33 PM
  #21  
Premium Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
rukkee's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-21-06
Location: Western NY
Posts: 6,574
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by tmharsh
If it's running sluggish in hot weather, then it's probably knock retard. Do you have that display deal and does it display KR or timing? I wouldn't know, I have a sedan.
Nope I don't have a Knock PID to monitor but i can (and do) watch timing with my Superchips Cortex.... I've only seen negative timing when i let off the gas ... never under throttle . Would i see negative numbers if it was knock ..... or would i lose a few degrees of timing ? It's hard to keep track of ... guess i'll have to log it when it's cool out for a baseline .... then again when it's hot .
Old 05-28-2010, 11:39 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
PrincessTurbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-27-09
Location: In the mountains
Posts: 2,803
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I thought I was the only one . 60F and below it runs like a raped ape , anything higher and it is a enormous difference . 15% humidity normal here so I can't speak for that.

::wipes forehead off:::

100 + here today ..
Old 05-29-2010, 12:13 AM
  #23  
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
09CobaltSS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-12-09
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 4,910
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Originally Posted by rukkee
Nope I don't have a Knock PID to monitor but i can (and do) watch timing with my Superchips Cortex.... I've only seen negative timing when i let off the gas ... never under throttle . Would i see negative numbers if it was knock ..... or would i lose a few degrees of timing ? It's hard to keep track of ... guess i'll have to log it when it's cool out for a baseline .... then again when it's hot .
KR won't show up as actual "negative" timing so to speak in your logs. You will really only see it if you're logging with a KR or total KR PID selected.

The hotter the weather, the more KR I seem to see in the 3500-4000 rpm range (sometimes a tad higher) for my car. These motors seem particularly sensative to IAT's, more so than others
Old 05-29-2010, 07:35 AM
  #24  
Member
 
Married w/children's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-29-09
Location: South Carolina yeehaww
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have no problems with heat,, I installed the Al Gore Green Intercooler. It is made from recycled Polar bear.
Old 05-29-2010, 10:52 AM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
Terminator2's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-25-08
Location: Florida
Posts: 12,478
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by PrincessTurbo
I thought I was the only one . 60F and below it runs like a raped ape , anything higher and it is a enormous difference . 15% humidity normal here so I can't speak for that.

::wipes forehead off:::

100 + here today ..
It is ok, everyone else is slower now as well so you will still spank them.

Originally Posted by slowstang
winner!
Warmer air also means less O2 concentration (lower density) and less power as a result.

Originally Posted by tmharsh
If it's running sluggish in hot weather, then it's probably knock retard. Do you have that display deal and does it display KR or timing? I wouldn't know, I have a sedan.
Sometimes. I log mine everyday just to make sure everything is all good. I am running more timing now in 96*+ temps than in winter LOL. Summer gas is far better than winter blend.

Last edited by Terminator2; 05-29-2010 at 10:52 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost


Quick Reply: Warm weather = Sluggish Car



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:39 PM.