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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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0-60 and 1/4 mile times with gms1

I have been looking for these stats and cant find any of these! I know stock 0-60 is 5.5 and 1/4 mile is 14.0, really like to know what these times are with the turbo stage kit added, so i can brag about my fast cobalt! Im guessing 0-60 5.3 and 1/4 mile 13.6 anybody know, thanks.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Id like to think that it would make it closer to 0-60 in 5.0 and 1/4 in like 13.0. Those should be obtainable with a decent driver considering stock is like 5.5 and 13.6-14
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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no way would a 13.0 be obtainable with ONLY GM stage kit with stock tires.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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not enough power for 13 flat without slicks
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Maybe 13.2 then. Tires are a big prob tho
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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to tell you the truth a 13.5 with GM stage kit and stock tires would be pretty good. To get less than that you need to be able to launch the car very well, no-lift shift every gear, and hope the track is prepped like a biotch.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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That seems weak being that a select few have sqeeked out 13.6s stock. I guess the extra power would cause the launch to be harder. Id really be more conserned with the trap speed. Thats where youll see the power come through at. Everything else can be chalked up to having bad traction and/or track prep and fwd
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS
Id like to think that it would make it closer to 0-60 in 5.0 and 1/4 in like 13.0. Those should be obtainable with a decent driver considering stock is like 5.5 and 13.6-14
Those who ran 13.55-13.6 with their cars stock might be able to sweak out a 13.2 at 106. Those who ran 14.0-14.2 stock probably would run 13.6 at 104-105.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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I was trapping 105 stock and I ran 13.8. Edit: just look at time slips: 104.5mph

I'd say GMs1 only would net a decent driver 13.5-13.7 @ 107.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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A really vague rule of thumb is that 100hp can potentially shave 1 second of your quarter mile, like I said this is a very general, rough estimate. So with the GM Stage Tune netting 50ish HP, 0.5sec off your time seems like a reasonable time to expect. Please don't flame this is just something I've read and heard of lots and lots of times before.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS
Id like to think that it would make it closer to 0-60 in 5.0 and 1/4 in like 13.0. Those should be obtainable with a decent driver considering stock is like 5.5 and 13.6-14
Definitely not 13.0, but with how much harder this car pulls with GMS1 compared to stock, Id say mid 13s should definitely be doable on stock rubber....if you can drive.

I would be curious to see official results though....
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 12:39 AM
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Ive never been in a GMS1 car so its kinda hard for me to judge. Im comparing the way my car felt going from stock to tuned with a few bolt-ons. Man I would really like to race a stage 1 car to see what they got.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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the lnf upgrade kit is pretty awesome. it's like a mild tune. with just that computer reflash from gm and the new sensors it comes with my car was putting out a max around 23psi of boost when it would spike under good conditions. I drove it like that for about a month and a half and it was a night and day difference from stock except once you get beyond about 6,000 RPM it dropped off really bad with just the gms1. I went out and got myself a CIA Catless Downpipe and now my car has power all throughout the RPMs. I'm looking into getting it dynotested but I haven't found a good price yet. My guess is a little over 300 hp and 325-335 lb-ft. at the crank.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by wantedSS/TC
I was trapping 105 stock and I ran 13.8. Edit: just look at time slips: 104.5mph

I'd say GMs1 only would net a decent driver 13.5-13.7 @ 107.
Some were trapping only 100-101 stock so most would be in the 105-106 mph range with the GMS1. Some might get 107-108 but that would be pushing it a little especially considering how badly the power drops off up top.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Some were trapping only 100-101 stock so most would be in the 105-106 mph range with the GMS1. Some might get 107-108 but that would be pushing it a little especially considering how badly the power drops off up top.
The average driver would be in the high 13's. Again, this is all on the driver and shift points. My 105 stock trap was NLS at 5800 1st, 6k the rest with hitting 4th 50 feet before the end of the track.

Give me GMS1 and I'd be disappointed with anything less. I'd say with GMS1 only I could trap 107. Tune only TC's are trapping on average 108. Bolted GMS1 would be a different story.

I am trapping bolted and tuned 115.

Power does drop off significantly with GMS1 around 5800 - literally 25whp within 200rpms between 5800-6000 in 3rd.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Short shift it around 5800 in all gears? They did extend the red line i think 200RPMS. I'm ready for this season to start and get a cumulative results for GMPP Stage I for the SS/TC. Saw on Youtube a Stage I SS/TC vs HPTuner SS/TC. I was pretty impressed what the Stage I was able to bring to the race.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kildore
Short shift it around 5800 in all gears? They did extend the red line i think 200RPMS. I'm ready for this season to start and get a cumulative results for GMPP Stage I for the SS/TC. Saw on Youtube a Stage I SS/TC vs HPTuner SS/TC. I was pretty impressed what the Stage I was able to bring to the race.
In stock form redline was 6300. In order to prevent bouncing off the limiter and blowing spark I would shift around 6-6100 since the car was out of breath in that range anyway. Ran 13.8 @ 105 that way w/ a horrid 2.2. 60'
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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cool.. looking to see how to race with the stage I
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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I ran (I know, pretty bad) a best 14.45 at 100 mph stock. After I got the GMS1, I ran a 13.67 at 104 with still a pretty bad 2.32 60' time. I was stock then except for the GMS1. Now with ZZP airbox mod with KN and CIA catted downpipe, we'll see this sprint what I can do. Now if I could just improve the launch.....
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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I'm here in AZ and my stock tires suck, but stock I was running around 14.0 and I got in a couple runs with the GMS1 and was 13.7 with about a 2.4 60' time. It might have been that it was cold though, so I'll go back to the track at some point when it is a little warmer and see what happens...
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by arizbea
I ran (I know, pretty bad) a best 14.45 at 100 mph stock. After I got the GMS1, I ran a 13.67 at 104 with still a pretty bad 2.32 60' time. I was stock then except for the GMS1. Now with ZZP airbox mod with KN and CIA catted downpipe, we'll see this sprint what I can do. Now if I could just improve the launch.....
Good luck-sounds a lot like my setup

Being a newb to launching a "torquey" FWD'er may make me jealous but I've always been slightly skeptical of the 13.5/13.6 "bone stock" TC claims(no tire/susp./filter mods included). To any Stig Jr's that have honestly acomplished this I salute you/your car

My reasoning: Most of the testing I saw indicated 14-14.2 or SLIGHTLY better with what were probably "competent" drivers. My experience includes a grand total of 4 passes, all on stock tune/K&N/Dejon bpv spring?! and possibly Royal Purple?!?
Best pass: 14.154 @ 105.32 with a 2.346 60'. I know the 60 could improve but is there really half a second to be had in driver mod alone? Also, with the kind of 60' needed to post a mid 13 on a bone stock car are the Conti's up to the task? I don't have the experience to know what track conditions I was dealing with so I'll just say they were SHITTY
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FRQ FLYR
Good luck-sounds a lot like my setup

Being a newb to launching a "torquey" FWD'er may make me jealous but I've always been slightly skeptical of the 13.5/13.6 "bone stock" TC claims(no tire/susp./filter mods included). To any Stig Jr's that have honestly acomplished this I salute you/your car

My reasoning: Most of the testing I saw indicated 14-14.2 or SLIGHTLY better with what were probably "competent" drivers. My experience includes a grand total of 4 passes, all on stock tune/K&N/Dejon bpv spring?! and possibly Royal Purple?!?
Best pass: 14.154 @ 105.32 with a 2.346 60'. I know the 60 could improve but is there really half a second to be had in driver mod alone? Also, with the kind of 60' needed to post a mid 13 on a bone stock car are the Conti's up to the task? I don't have the experience to know what track conditions I was dealing with so I'll just say they were SHITTY
I managed a 2.07-2.09 60ft time only a few times when stock. Track prep, DA, and driver plays a huge role in a cars ET. They say for every tenth off the 60ft time it's 1.5x that at the finish line and I believe it. Every time I had a better 60ft the elapsed time went down and the mph went up.

Your car has the mph for mid 13s on street tires you just need some more seat time. Where you have only ran 4 times I was down the track over 20 times when stock. It takes time to find out what works and what doesn't.

I don't know about 0-60 but I'd say a typical time for a Stage 1 SS/TC should be mid 13s at 104-107 depending on the DA. More power doesn't always equal faster 1/4 mile times.

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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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I experienced this exact scenario with my car, so I will let you know what I noticed.

I went to the track with my balt, bone stock with stock tires on them. THis was my first time ever at a drag strip - so everything was new to me... I ran a 14.0 using NLS, but no launch control (i just spun my tires with launch control), which seemed to be decent especially for my first time out.

I got my GMS1 installed. No other mods were made, although I did have my all season tires on - I went to the track and ran a 13.55. Also not only did I have my all seasons on, I was definatly low on tread - so traction was an issue.

I realize these results are a little scewed, due to the tires and stuff - but it should give you some idea...
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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I have the GMS1 and first gear period is pointless without slicks or while using launch control. Since first gear is so short my best launches have been off idle acting as if i were an auto. Have been really impressed with the way the car lunges forward using that technique. The low end torque really enables you to do this without blowing the tires off. Trick is getting that first to second shift perfect where I have the hardest time being smooth. Trying to time it right before the tires loose grip or shifting to early and bogging second have plagued me aside from the rubbery feeling shifts from the stock bushings (aluminum bushings coming to fix that) that sometimes make me second guess if im all the way in gear and cause me to loose precious time and boost. Sometimes I wonder for all the hardcore guys if one was to install shorter gears and launch from second, would the car have enough torque to pull that off. Gotta be someone out there with more money than brains to give it a try!!
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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im about to get my gm stage 1 hoping to be in the mid 13's
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