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Old 01-10-2012, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall
Even if it isn't we should still be able to tell if it's worth it or not. Especially if he has data logs of before and after.
Problem is if I'm not mistaken if they use zzp it is a mustang dyno, the previous dyno was a dynojet there is going to be probably a reduction of numbers here. So most people glancing will only notice this and not the fact that two different types of dyno's were used. Just my .02.
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Originally Posted by JBThrasher22
Problem is if I'm not mistaken if they use zzp it is a mustang dyno, the previous dyno was a dynojet there is going to be probably a reduction of numbers here. So most people glancing will only notice this and not the fact that two different types of dyno's were used. Just my .02.
That's a good point. Hopefully he has logs! From what I gather we could see flow differences there regardless of dyno used. Any tuners wanna chime in on that?
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The proof will be in the flow through the maf. If we see it flowing in the 39-40lb/min area then we know it is capable of producing 30-40 more HP over the stock wheel. I'm wondering if it will be able to make HP into the 6k rpms range and not fall off at 5600 like the stocker
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So this wheel is only for the K04 compressor housing right? Is there something that is about the size of the 2871 that can be installed on the BNR hybrid? Might be interesting to see what it would produce since the compressor housing is for a 2871.

Looking forward to the results of this on the K04.
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Originally Posted by cubaniche
So this wheel is only for the K04 compressor housing right? Is there something that is about the size of the 2871 that can be installed on the BNR hybrid? Might be interesting to see what it would produce since the compressor housing is for a 2871.

Looking forward to the results of this on the K04.
thats what I'm interested in lol that might be beast
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
thats what I'm interested in lol that might be beast
LOL Yeah, I figure the 2871 is a more standard size since its basically a dico potato, so maybe they have something already that should fit in our housing
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who ever's turbo this is, i believe it's ryro's. will still have their own dyno done.

BEP wants to test this turbo before giving it to him, making sure they didn't just build a shiny paper weight. but because they can't flow it on their turbo dyno zzp agreed to put it on an lnf and test it. whether its matts car, a stock lnf, or fitted on to ryans car, you will be able to tell if the turbo is flowing more, and making more whp, increased power band than a stock ko4 would.

i do like cranemaster's idea though. test a bone stock down to the tire lnf with this wheel and gms1, see where that gets people. flash tune, some sensors, and a wheel upgrade for under $1,500 and you can get 320ishwhp and 300+ torque while looking 100% stock?? yes please.
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oh and as long as your store the e85 or whatever mix you go with properly. you won't have any troubles.
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Just got a response from Bill Devine, Sales/Marketing. Says they do not make anything that would be the size of the 2871 LOL

Sucks. Still in for results on this for the K04.
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
who ever's turbo this is, i believe it's ryro's. will still have their own dyno done.

BEP wants to test this turbo before giving it to him, making sure they didn't just build a shiny paper weight. but because they can't flow it on their turbo dyno zzp agreed to put it on an lnf and test it. whether its matts car, a stock lnf, or fitted on to ryans car, you will be able to tell if the turbo is flowing more, and making more whp, increased power band than a stock ko4 would.

i do like cranemaster's idea though. test a bone stock down to the tire lnf with this wheel and gms1, see where that gets people. flash tune, some sensors, and a wheel upgrade for under $1,500 and you can get 320ishwhp and 300+ torque while looking 100% stock?? yes please.
But a $300 tune and a $200 down pipe gets the same numbers. I was thinking more in the 370whp 400wtq area with the help of some ethanol?
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who knows whats possible with ethanol. james just tuned a car with simple bolt ons and e47 to 355whp on the stock turbo.
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
oh and as long as your store the e85 or whatever mix you go with properly. you won't have any troubles.
Ok, cool. Maybe I'll stock up on it then for those crazy weekends when I want 450+whp on the s252 since I am putting cams in as well eventually. Meth + e85 should help a lot. I know my family used to stock up on kerosene for our stove back in the day in a 55gallon drum.
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Kerosene is more like diesel than gasoline so it will act differently. I think if we should contact the Company that makes Stabil and see if it's okay for E. I think anything past two weeks would see some moisture absorption.
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Just put some seafoam in there. It dries fuel
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did bullseye flow tested the before and after the wheel?
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no thats the reason for putting it on a car and dynoing it. it won't mount to their turbo dyno
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall
Kerosene is more like diesel than gasoline so it will act differently. I think if we should contact the Company that makes Stabil and see if it's okay for E. I think anything past two weeks would see some moisture absorption.
Stabil makes something for fuels with e, but I think its more like something to make it seem like the e isnt there for the purpose of not corroding parts, because e will eat through fiber glass and aluminum if it its in/on it.
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i know what you're talking about. i can't think of the name of it, theres a few variations. but people use it when running methonal or ethanol for fuel. because those two don't have the lubricating properties that gasoline does, then mix this in with it so everything gets the proper lubrication. a lot of people also have them scented. so if youre ever at the track and think a loud grape or strawberry just drove by...they're probably running methanol or ethanol like e98
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Thats weird. Stabil just started selling it a couple years after e10 hit the market and phased out normal gas. Pretty much small engine only type stuff to keep you from corroding the fuel tanks and carburetor jets.
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Originally Posted by cubaniche
LOL Yeah, I figure the 2871 is a more standard size since its basically a dico potato, so maybe they have something already that should fit in our housing
Guys, a few pages back I posted on here that I had called Bullseye Power about our BNR GT2871r's. Unfortunately they do not have a wheel made for the GT28 and R&D would have to be done to make one. When I asked about the R&D he said that a minimum of 25 wheels would have to be made in order to get a final product. That means that 25 wheels would need to get paid for up front, that a lot of mula! So unless we round up a good group of people they will not make a wheel.
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Originally Posted by 40rty
Guys, a few pages back I posted on here that I had called Bullseye Power about our BNR GT2871r's. Unfortunately they do not have a wheel made for the GT28 and R&D would have to be done to make one. When I asked about the R&D he said that a minimum of 25 wheels would have to be made in order to get a final product. That means that 25 wheels would need to get paid for up front, that a lot of mula! So unless we round up a good group of people they will not make a wheel.
my question is why is it like 10 for this.. but 25 for a 2871 ... a 2871 is a standard ******* turbo
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Your guess is as good as mine. The only thing that he told me was that for smaller turbo's they don't have to make as many wheels for a final project. I thought the same thing, this turbo being used widely by many and they don't have a wheel? Weird but I spoke with the head guy there. I'll be down to put my part but we just need a good group which there is a handful of GT2871r guys here and a handful on Skyroadster.com.
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall
Kerosene is more like diesel than gasoline so it will act differently. I think if we should contact the Company that makes Stabil and see if it's okay for E. I think anything past two weeks would see some moisture absorption.
Yeah, I know that. I was just meaning that we had a 55 gallon drum out back with a standard gate valve fitted to it and it never leaked and seemed to work well. I was just questionable as to whether it was air tight or not because usually if something isn't it draws moisture eventually but if something is sealed air tight I would think it wouldn't draw moisture as easily but only when you pull the E from it. Closest station to my house is 130 miles away.
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Originally Posted by 40rty
Your guess is as good as mine. The only thing that he told me was that for smaller turbo's they don't have to make as many wheels for a final project. I thought the same thing, this turbo being used widely by many and they don't have a wheel? Weird but I spoke with the head guy there. I'll be down to put my part but we just need a good group which there is a handful of GT2871r guys here and a handful on Skyroadster.com.
I'd be down for a batmowheel for 400 bux for my bnr all I have left to do to my car is tranny internal work,more head work (already under way), girdled block (which I dont plan on doing), or bigger turbo
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Originally Posted by 40rty
Your guess is as good as mine. The only thing that he told me was that for smaller turbo's they don't have to make as many wheels for a final project. I thought the same thing, this turbo being used widely by many and they don't have a wheel? Weird but I spoke with the head guy there. I'll be down to put my part but we just need a good group which there is a handful of GT2871r guys here and a handful on Skyroadster.com.
Damn, I totally missed that post about you checkin gon this already. Oh well. Id be down but even then, I dont think there are 25 ppl in total that would want to do it. ****, I think maybe hes only sold like 30 or 40.

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