Frogstofall

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You worked at Batmowheel? Thats nuts...

TommyP

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fixed...

Frogstofall

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Thanks Tommy.

strazdice

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what is the main cause for the failures happening Currently?

Matt M

Wow, Shawn. That's pretty bold. You've been here one day and going to war? I remember Dave taking care of you pretty good when you had issues with your car out at our shop. It's surprising that you would be so quick to stab him in the back on the way out the door.


I would take this information with a grain of salt. He thought they were the greatest thing out when he worked there. It's often tough to judge the accuracy of someones "information" when it changes drastically in a short period of time. There is obviously some sort of bias playing a part.

BLAZIN07SS

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sounds like someone got fired

cubaniche

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Someones dirty laundry being aired out in public?...IM IN! *sits back and grabs the popcorn*

shawnrandolph

Matt If you would like to keep it off the forums please you know me email. You know as well as I do that working there you cant say much of anything. There was alot more stabbing in the back on the other side when I left for my new job cuz they had no one to do machining

EXsoccer1921

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no no, you can continue in the thread.

Frogstofall

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Yeah for real. If there are quality or integrity issues, I would like to know all details.

40rty

exploding wheels? Some dude Shawn having worked there and Matt making an appearance?

Matt your the loudest kid in this forum.

EXsoccer1921

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lul at matt being a kid

EXsoccer1921

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i mean....




he's great ...man

40rty

I hope he gets it, he should know what I mean

AndrewSS/TC

ive made two purchases from ZZP they ship that shitttttt fastttttttttttttttttttttt hope this helps.

Terminator2

I hope it makes more than a stock K-04 that is the whole idea. What I want are stock numbers on that dyno, tuned numbers and tuned numbers with the wheel on same tune as far as DALs, WG DC, timing, A/F, etc. No mustang or dynocom dynos either too much potential for operator error vs a dynojet. Fortys car made a whopping 220 whp 240 wrtq stock on the saame dynojet dyno so 100 whp and 170 wrtq is a decent gain with a few boltons and some E-47 especially considering misfiring autolite plugs (fixed now) and his HPFP could not keep up with the fueling demand at 420 wrtq.

Edit: Ugh ZZPs mustang dyno where their shop LNF car made 242 whp 250 wrtq stock which is pure crap. I have seen at least 10 stock LNF mustang dyno graphs an none made over 215 whp and 220 wtrq stock. The only way a LNF will make 13-15% more power than it should on a mustang dyno is by manipulation of the weight and Cd of the vehicle. That is all I need to know. I wish someone else would test this setup.

EXsoccer1921

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whats funny is that the dyno doesn't matter when you test a stock ko4, and then put on the batmoKo4 and test again. which is what they did. and yes it made more power.

Terminator2

It does if they mess with any of the user inputs vehicle weight, Cd, etc. What is nice about dynojets is there is no operator inputs that go into figuring HP and torque hence no operator error and consistant results. Care to actually share the results?

Matt M

You need to stop your BS. It's getting old. We have been over this plenty of times. There are a lot of reasons why some cars make more power than others. You also seem to ignore correction factors. LNFs correct for conditions as everyone knows. If you dyno 2 stock lnfs- 1 in poor conditions, and 1 in ideal conditions, they should both make the same power, uncorrected. Then add in the correction factor, and the car that was dyno'd in poor conditions shows a much higher corrected hp number. It is just the nature of boost control by the ecm targetting a specific air load.

Second- we have gone straight from our dyno to another and documented the gains. As stated before, our dyno is typically on the high side for a Mustang dyno, but lower than any Dynojet I have tested on. How much higher or lower varies from every dyno you go to. For example. Go from our dyno to Baker Engineerings Dynojet and you will only pick up a few %, maybe 3-4. Then go straight to VT Engines Dynojet and you will see another 5% or more on top of that(I think they closed shop, though). On the other hand, Livernois' Mustang dyno would typically run 3-4% lower than ours, and Motor City Steel's Mustang just slightly lower than ours. Having said that- does it really matter when you are making a dyno comparison on the same day, same dyno? How could you possibly think that is a bad thing when others are testing at 2 different dynos, months apart and you don't say anything about it. You also never mind the fact that our Mustang dyno is going to do a better job of loading the engine properly rather than just spinning a drum that doesn't act nearly the same as actually driving the car does. The bottom line is- you don't "wish someone else would test this setup." You simply want to talk **** about ZZP.

Matt M

What you are saying makes no sense at all. If you think we are dishonest enough to change the dyno settings in order to make one test look better than another, couldn't we just put a bad tune on the car? It's not like the dyno graph shows ignition timing. Aside from any of that, which wheel is it that you think we favored? I'm having a hard time understand where you are coming from. We have no reason to skew anything, so why would it matter?

Bleu

Here's hoping everything works out. Might be very interested in the wheel.

Matt M

Here's another thing I just thought of- Aren't you the one who claimed 372whp on gas with the stock turbo and a few bolt-ons? And you question our dyno numbers?

terry11

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This

Boosted4

Less bickering, more Batmo results please.

Matt M

FWIW, here is the stock dyno chart from when I first got my car. It wasn't even 242. Torque was 242, HP was only 239. I have seen them make 260 on Dynojets. Where is the issue?