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Old 10-16-2016, 09:34 PM
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Car hard to start after filling up with gas

Ever since I got my bov and catless dp followed by a tune, I've had to pump the throttle to get the car started. I think it's due to the evap purge solenoid which is no longer needed/in use and have read this issue is called vapour lock. Anyone have any suggestions?
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I think Ive heard this has to do with the purge solonoid as well. Why do you think its no longer needed?
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Because of the bov. Not too sure how to explain it technically but I trust my tuner. photo858.jpg
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Vapor lock is when the fuel evaporates in the line (usually not an issue in EFI cars). Evap purge solenoid controls the purge of the evap system (also a fuel thing). I don't see why either of those would have anything to do with the BOV.
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Your tuner is blowing smoke up your ass.
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go head and trust your tuner over guys who know what the hell they are talking about. pretty soon nobody is going to help you because apparently you and your marvelous tuner know it all.
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Sounds like your tuner know what he's doing. Just have him retune you and all these issues will go away, when your motor blows.
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you need your EVAP purge solenoid, its the little black box on your intake manifold in that picture. Take it off, and try blowing into it. if you can blow out air, its bad.
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I think hes talking about his boost control solenoid, which is technically not needed after you run a bov. I ran my BOV straight from my intake manifold to the HKS and never had any issues. I had to plug the lower port on the charge piping however
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Originally Posted by hawkssoccer11
go head and trust your tuner over guys who know what the hell they are talking about. pretty soon nobody is going to help you because apparently you and your marvelous tuner know it all.
That's why I'm on here to get input lol. I have to go back to my tuner anyway to get the fuel trims fixed.
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Originally Posted by cobaltssdude420
That's why I'm on here to get input lol. I have to go back to my tuner anyway to get the fuel trims fixed.
then why dont you listen to these guys? there should be absolutely no reason as to why that evap solenoid should be unplugged at all.
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I didn't ask about if before it was disconnected. Also, I found that waiting a few minutes after I fuel up solves the problem. I'll be sure to mention this to my guy though.
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Originally Posted by cobaltssdude420
I didn't ask about if before it was disconnected. Also, I found that waiting a few minutes after I fuel up solves the problem. I'll be sure to mention this to my guy though.
just listen to us thats all were asking. that evap purge solenoid is most likely bad. i replaced one but ill be damned if im gonna sit at a gas station for a couple minutes to just start my damn car when its a super cheap fix.
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Just to be sure we're on the same page, the solenoid we're talking about used to be beside the vacuum line in the middle of the manifold where those 3 holes are right?
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Originally Posted by cobaltssdude420
Just to be sure we're on the same page, the solenoid we're talking about used to be beside the vacuum line in the middle of the manifold where those 3 holes are right?
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That is the boost control solenoid.

we are talking about the EVAP Purge solenoid. which is the black box in front of that vacuum line.
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Yeah I figured. Sorry for the confusion lol I'm an idiot. Most of the bullshit that I say comes out when I'm bored at work. Glad that's cleared up
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no problem. the way you have your BOV setup is the correct way.

but like I said before, pull that little black box and see if you can blow into it. if you can and air comes out the other side, its bad and you need a replacement.
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Cool, thanks
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no problem. the way you have your BOV setup is the correct way.

but like I said before, pull that little black box and see if you can blow into it. if you can and air comes out the other side, its bad and you need a replacement.
Sometimes they get stuck in the closed position too.

If the evap purge selenoid is over a year old, i'd replace it.

It's $15-20 and 5 min to change. I've replaced 4 or 5 on my car now
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this is why my car is evap deleted lol
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Originally Posted by 07blackg5
this is why my car is evap deleted lol
X2

Mines deleted and code is deleted. Car runs perfect with out it for me. But I'm also tuned by a reputable tuner.
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#weightreduction
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#weightreduction
So jdm
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Originally Posted by no_ss
X2 Mines deleted and code is deleted. Car runs perfect with out it for me. But I'm also tuned by a reputable tuner.
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