Getting downpipe, need tune?
2010 Black cobalt SS/tc, k&n typhoon intake and im looking at getting the zzp canned tune.
They have all the options for intakes injectors and turbos variations but nothing on tuning out the cat. Does anyone have any experience with them? Whith this tune in particualr? Should i just run untuned non cat? Please help |
You need a tune for the intake, not the downpipe. The power gains with the catless downpipe are due to less restriction and cant really be tuned for if you were to have a good tune already.
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I thought they had a spot so they can disable the code you will get when you go catless.
The tune wakes up the car but you will want more power fast lol. Cuz that's where I'm at now lol |
There are codes that need shut off, but there are more things to be changed for no cat.
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Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
(Post 7608593)
There are codes that need shut off, but there are more things to be changed for no cat.
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Originally Posted by RYRO14
(Post 7608584)
You need a tune for the intake, not the downpipe. The power gains with the catless downpipe are due to less restriction and cant really be tuned for if you were to have a good tune already.
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The warm up tables and protection tables for it.
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When going catless, the cat warm up should be disabled (although not 100% needed), the correct DTC's need to be disabled (roughly 12 in total), and cat over temp protection needs to be disabled.
One thing to keep in mind when it comes to disabling the cat warm up cycle. It is not a good idea to simply disable the warm up cycle without proper tuning in other areas. Otherwise, mainly during colder times of the year (or even cool mornings), the car will hard start like a son of a gun and borderline not run until warmed up. |
Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
(Post 7608601)
the car will hard start like a son of a gun and borderline not run until warmed up.
So if i disable the protection codes and ect it wont hurt the fueling at all? A/F ratios wouldent be out of wack since the o2 sensors are reading the same air? |
To do it right you need to tune for it being gone.
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Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
(Post 7608609)
To do it right you need to tune for it being gone.
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Depends on if the guy in town is worth a damn.
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Yea, im leaning towards just getting the zpp ecm as it is a safer tune, and im cheap, dont wanna blow it up. So would i be able to specify in the zzp tune that i have a catless downpipe, and thus them tune it out for me?
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Where about in northern alberta are you. I am in cold lake
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Originally Posted by red s s
(Post 7608626)
Where about in northern alberta are you. I am in cold lake
Cant go biking this maylong |
Ya it sucks. I just sold my bike. 2013 700 raptor
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
(Post 7608601)
When going catless, the cat warm up should be disabled (although not 100% needed), the correct DTC's need to be disabled (roughly 12 in total), and cat over temp protection needs to be disabled.
One thing to keep in mind when it comes to disabling the cat warm up cycle. It is not a good idea to simply disable the warm up cycle without proper tuning in other areas. Otherwise, mainly during colder times of the year (or even cool mornings), the car will hard start like a son of a gun and borderline not run until warmed up. |
Originally Posted by RYRO14
(Post 7608703)
I have had my CIA catless downpipe for 5 years and have never thrown a code for not having a Cat. I guess it just depends on what downpipe you buy.
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Originally Posted by DirtySS
(Post 7608706)
I was looking at the zzp 2.5in replacement. But ive heard all about an angled 02 bung, which will make it so you dont throw codes? I thought the o2 sensor had to be in the flow of air how would the angled bung make a difference?
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Originally Posted by RYRO14
(Post 7608728)
Its angled so that the sensor sees less airflow and thus it wont throw a code.
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