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Direnight 01-19-2016 12:17 AM

I wonder is there a list of Tunes some where i live in Atlanta & was thinking of Moding my car just have not made up my mind yet.

blueLNFftw 01-19-2016 08:47 AM

Forge BPV are NOT an upgrade. They are a pain in the dick and not worth the $150.00 at all. They are too stiff even on the lowest spring and cause BPV solenoid issues as they are slower compared to stock. The stock BPV is the best choice.

You should NOT run a vent to atmosphere BPV or BOV without a tune, on the OEM BPV solenoid, and a MAF relocate it HIGHLY recommended to avoid rich spikes from releasing metered air. When doing the MAF relocate you can simply cut the plastic wire loom open and pull out the wires to move the MAF plug to its new location. No harness or wire cutting is needed on the Cobalts.

63 Nova SS 01-19-2016 07:02 PM

Good advice!

blueLNFftw 01-20-2016 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by 63 Nova SS (Post 7587358)
Good advice!

I wish more people would listen lol.
I have had a dollar for every argument I have caught over my analysis of the stock BPV solenoid, MAF relocate and VTA on blow through set ups, I would have a free s257 swap on my car lol

umrdyldo 01-20-2016 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Direnight (Post 7587222)
I wonder is there a list of Tunes some where i live in Atlanta & was thinking of Moding my car just have not made up my mind yet.

Find Term2, drive to see him.

blueLNFftw 01-20-2016 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Direnight (Post 7587222)
I wonder is there a list of Tunes some where i live in Atlanta & was thinking of Moding my car just have not made up my mind yet.

What car do you have?

riceburner 01-20-2016 12:12 PM

guys - havent looked at this thread much since i made it. any additions/changes i need to make to the OP?

Thanks!

blueLNFftw 01-20-2016 12:26 PM

Post #52

Add to it that a BPV, BOV, or MAF relocate are not power adders. People seem to think they are.

riceburner 01-20-2016 01:37 PM

Affirmative. Idk why anyone thinks they are lol. They do sound cool though which is worth 5hp in my book ;)

blueLNFftw 01-20-2016 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by riceburner (Post 7587487)
Affirmative. Idk why anyone thinks they are lol. They do sound cool though which is worth 5hp in my book ;)

The replacement BPV's do not function right which is why they make the sound they make lol

blu3_v1p3r 01-20-2016 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by blueLNFftw (Post 7587254)
Forge BPV are NOT an upgrade. They are a pain in the dick and not worth the $150.00 at all. They are too stiff even on the lowest spring and cause BPV solenoid issues as they are slower compared to stock. The stock BPV is the best choice.

You should NOT run a vent to atmosphere BPV or BOV without a tune, on the OEM BPV solenoid, and a MAF relocate it HIGHLY recommended to avoid rich spikes from releasing metered air. When doing the MAF relocate you can simply cut the plastic wire loom open and pull out the wires to move the MAF plug to its new location. No harness or wire cutting is needed on the Cobalts.

Forge Bypass Valve is a pain in the dick? How so? Installation was simple. Also the lightest spring is equivalent to stock. I've had mine for 2 years with not a single issue from it. I'm not a believer that they are slower then the stock BPV. Is there anything you can show that backs this information up? I do agree that it is not a power adder. I got mine because my stock BPV got stuck open, and the diaphragm started to tear.

theamericono 03-09-2016 09:55 PM

so if i understand this correctly the 3 bar map sensor just senses a more accurate boost pressure correct. And the HPtuner is that a specific brand or is the a couple of hptuners

ECaulk 03-09-2016 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by theamericono (Post 7597341)
so if i understand this correctly the 3 bar map sensor just senses a more accurate boost pressure correct. And the HPtuner is that a specific brand or is the a couple of hptuners

3bar increases the boost the ecu can see accurately. Hptuners is a hardware and software that allows you to either tune the car yourself or have someone remote tune you or in person tune you

Direnight 03-09-2016 10:41 PM

I have a 2009 4 Door Cobalt SS Turbo Silver i believe i put picks on my account if you wanted to see.

Direnight 03-09-2016 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by blueLNFftw (Post 7587441)
What car do you have?

I have a 2009 4 Door Cobalt SS Turbo Silver i believe i put picks on my account If you wanted to see it.

Scypheroth 08-16-2016 11:35 PM

and what about us canadians that dont have access to Ethanol fuel? all we got in my area is 10% ethanol fuel of 92 and 94 octaine

Canadia 08-16-2016 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by Scypheroth (Post 7618850)
and what about us canadians that dont have access to Ethanol fuel? all we got in my area is 10% ethanol fuel of 92 and 94 octaine

meth

KINGMAROSS 01-19-2017 10:53 AM

What process is required when switching from 93 to ethanol fuel?

umrdyldo 01-19-2017 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by KINGMAROSS (Post 7636330)
What process is required when switching from 93 to ethanol fuel?

Depends if you want to go with full E85, E47, E30 etc. At a minimum you need a retune. If you want to run full E85 you will need upgraded cam and probably injectors.

You can run E30 with just a retune usually.

LnFitness 02-24-2018 10:11 AM

Gms1
 
If I had gms1 sensors do I need to get a custom tune for the effect or can I just install and I’m good to go?

Snail_SS 02-24-2018 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by LnFitness (Post 7678575)
If I had gms1 sensors do I need to get a custom tune for the effect or can I just install and I’m good to go?

You will need a tune to run the sensors. Either the gms1 tune or a custom tune

63 Nova SS 02-24-2018 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Snail_SS
You will need a tune to run the sensors. Either the gms1 tune or a custom tune

This^ if I remember right it will go into limp mode.

umrdyldo 02-25-2018 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Pasierbek (Post 7523173)
Wow what a great thread for an LNF beginner. Thank you for starting this up! One question though, I heard you have to cut your stock exhaust to install a downpipe. Is that true?

Also in regards to transmission, I heard the throw out bearing is not very durable.

No the stock downpipe is removed as one piece and is replaced with no cutting. If you replace the catback portion of the exhaust you have to cut the stock catback

The TOB is really only an issue for people that replace the clutch. Some people install the new TOB wrong and it leads to issues

LNFwagonSS 02-25-2018 05:10 PM

Zzp's newly released upgraded HPFP and mongorats LT4 pump adapter kit should be added to thread.

06stockss 08-28-2018 02:11 PM

Hey guys I live in Denver Colorado right now on 91oct pump has just few bolt on like downpipe zzp catless zzp bigger intercooler zzp trans mount and I have a intake from k@n have not put that on yet it’s my daily drive but my goal for it is like 305-310who and 330-340ftq To. Right now has the zzp canned tuned and did 285hp 314ftq on 20psi that all I can do pretty since I don’t have charge piping change yet will soon tho


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