mongorat427

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I plan on doing the MAF relocate so I dont run into problems again if I have to race in the rain. I allready have the ZZP MAF relocate lower charge pipe. Anything I should be aware of besides tuning for it ?

RyRidesMotox

My own experience... It doesn't help in the rain. My car will still run like a bag of rotten asses. The car runs just fine into the rain, then after it cools off to ambient temps and is restarted the condensation in the charge pipes makes the car spit and sputter. After that it needs a day or 2 of normal driving to clear out and it will be fine.

Install wise its not hard at all. Find something to plug the MAF bung in the intake tube, I used an old blown MAF sensor, fits perfect, who'da thunk it right??? after that just split the black plastice tube crap enough to get the MAF harness to where it needs to go. I zip tied the wires up so they wont get caught in the fan and it works fine.... when its dry. Also, I didn't need any extension harness or anything for the MAF wires. There is more than enough in there to go around.

Honestly its kind of a worthless mod unless you have a BOV that vents to the atmosphere.

mongorat427

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I figured by the time the air gets to the MAF which will be right below the TB the moisture would be diffused a lot more. The only time it got wet was when we were road racing in a heavy rain. I have the 2nd design AEM Long Tube intake and the Air cleaner and Maf are fairly close together

Dart_SI

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itd be a good idea to have a catch can too so you dont get oil on your maf from blow by

mkulrey13

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I have the MAF relocate without a BOV just stock BPV and love it. I would recommend it to anyone with a aftermarket intake besides maybe the K&N. Runs perfect no tunning headaches.

cubaniche

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Have you tried a hydroshield? As long as its not a **** ton of water hitting the filter, a hydroshield should work nicely at keeping rain from touching the filter.

mongorat427

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Its inside the fenderwell. Another shield might help

RyRidesMotox

I hear you but you gotta remember, the moisture has to go somewhere. It is just that after the turbocharger compresses it its nice and warm and suspended in the air. Like I said before, my car is usually ok until it goes through a on/off cycle where the engine is off for an extended period and it is allowed to cool down the whole way. I think that because that happens the water pools in the charge pipes cuz the cold piping attracts the condensation in the piping, think of a big soda full of ice, it 'sweats' when its siting on your desk cuz it collects all the moisture from the atmosphere cuz its colder on the surface of the cup/glass.

Hmmm well it still needs to be tuned. The higher air velocities when the car is in boost will show massive amounts of airflow and throw you into limp mode. At least that is what happened on my car. Maybe yours is different but my LNF definitely needed a tune when I moved my MAF sensor

SSlobalt

I hate the MAF relocate. That sensor was not designed to see boost. All it has is a crappy rubber surround and two dinky screws on opposite corners. It's a boost leak waiting to happen.

mkulrey13

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i know it needs a tune. Im referring to fuel trim headaches and such. Ive had ZERO issues with my MAF relocation. guess im lucky

Gremlin85

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Your car has Wizardry, is what it is.

RyRidesMotox

I have had mine on for about 20k miles and haven't had an issue with leaks really. The MAP sensor has a little rubber round it and 2 little screws also so I'm not sure what you are getting at really. I dunno, worked for me just fine so I have no complaints.

I was just making sure you didnt have a wizard's sleeve or something in there

SSlobalt

Personally witnessed two boost leaks coming from the MAF relocate on two different cars. That rubber gasket was designed for vac sealing. Constant boost on it can't be a good thing, especially with two little mini-mount screws on only two corners. I know everyone says they don't have issues, but have you boost-leak tested it lately. I bet you have a small leak there.

mkulrey13

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I know i dont nor the other cars around me. Maybe you have a bad pipe?

cmiller8006

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You could put a hydroshield on the filter like mentioned above. And still could relocate the maf.

SSlobalt

Wasn't me, personally. Who knows? I just choose to avoid it all together.

mongorat427

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I might do that. What Throttle body are you running now Chris ? The 2.4 ?

mongorat427

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I was looking at the treadstone map relocate. I really like it. I have a used ZZP but the guy I got it off of got the bolt holes a little fucked up and I dont want to deal with it.

Iam Broke

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IMO the ZZP MAF relocate is too close to the TB. It sees barely any airflow at idle. It can be tuned out, but +40% at idle is a bit much on the MAF correction.

silverbullet08

I put one on a car here. It ran good until the condensation started to come in. I would tune it and it would run perfect then the next day after a little rain or sitting in the parking lot it would misfire. The maf Hz showed crazy spikes and would go super rich then lean then back rich and sometimes would just misfire for the hell of it. He would then come back to me saying the tune is off, so we would make about 5-6 pulls and it would go away for a few hours then come back. We gave up on it and put the maf back in the intake, havnt had a problem since

Neodous

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I know that ZZP made a MAF relocate but did'nt know anyone else did. That other brands are out there that make a kit?

FasterIsBetter

You sure the pipe wasn't flipped backwards, lmao. I almost installed my Hahn Lower CP backwards. It came with the car and was never installed so no, I didn't buy Hahn lol.

mongorat427

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Bump

mongorat427

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Treadstone make a mice lookin one

Cobalt Intercooler Pipe 90008 *MAF Relocate*- TREADSTONE PERFORMANCE

cmiller8006

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I am running the 2.4 tb. I haven't had any issues with the relocate on my car.