Ok so im looking to throw stage one cams, and springs in my 08 LNF and a tune and maybe even go all out with a new clutch and the borg warner turbo kit zzp offers. heres the thing,,,,I dont want to have to tune the car more then once but cant throw down hard cash and get all this at the same time.

 

Start with bolt-ons and a tune first. Then save up for the ZZP turbo kit.

 

I'd say save for a ZZP S256 or S252 and complete the kit. If I remember correctly it comes with a basic canned tune. Even with that tune I'm sure you'd be in the upper 300whp.

To me it's easy one job and bam all performance parts are done. Then you can focus on other things.

 

Also most of the turbo kits come with pretty much full bolt ons, so if you don't wanna work your way up and go full bolt on's plus tune first I would just wait and get it all in one kit

 

Ill throw my 2 cents in. When you modify a car, you almost always have bugs to work out. It's the nature of the beast. When you buy a fully loaded turbo kit that includes everything, you're going to also get all the bugs with it. It can become quite overbearing. When you do one thing at a time i.e. DP then intake then exhaust then tune you know where to focus your attention when you get bugs bc you're doing one mod at a time.

I'm not saying this to steer you away from getting a complete kit, just to inform you incase you've never done anything like this before.

 

thanks man and i totally know where your coming from...we built a yamaha blaster when i was like 14, had a big ass carb on it and port and polish and bored it .40 over and we ran into all kinds of probs....

now I forgot to throw in that the car has a synapse intercooler kit with synapse charge piping and a greddy type rs bov, gm performance 2.5 inch exhaust system and injen cold air, so other then a clutch, and valve springs, im almost ready to start building this car although ive considered a different exhaust to go with that zzp downpipe becuz its just not loud enough for me

 

I think this can be true, but I also feel like if done correctly the first time, it shouldn't be a problem. Sure things can just go wrong, but what if it's just a simple boost leak from a poorly installed charge pipe, spend say 3 hours and bam all working 100%

I think there's risk and reward. The reward can be great, but the risk is there too.

Good luck with what ever you choose.

 

yea im pretty set on this but my big thing is I wonder how the car would act as a daily driver and how long I could expect the motor to last. Ive seen plenty of people go this route but im yet to see how it turned out in the long run

 

Dude, just get your car hp tuned with the mods you have and make sure you have great tires and suspension and you will be plenty satisfied with your outcome and it will be reliable.....gl

 

I think it all depends on your driving habits. I rarely WOT and I usually do the speed limit. The only time I usually WOT is on ramps to highways and that's about as frequent as 4 times a week. I rarely street race, I do do it here and there, but for the most part I avoid it. The way I see it is, how often do you hit peak HP on normal driving? I dyno'd with my current mods 310whp 377wtq, and I hit that rarely, for the most part my car hits maybe 110whp to 200whp

I'm about to get a k04+ installed in my car and with Vince's dual tune, I'm gonna be limiting my boost for regular driving and turning it up for racing.

But you're right, if you plan on keeping it for 100k miles and beyond, maybe you shouldn't modify it to much. I eventually wanna get a MS3 or Ralliart or WRX or Evo or Cruze SS (if real) or Focus ST or Golf R or something with 4 doors and a little nicer. I personally feel like with my driving habits, I can get at least 100k miles out of my car. All my local buddies that drive cobalts are shock how much tread I have left on my stock tires lol.

 

yea im not going the turbo kit route im sticking with a zzp pcm to start then a clutch and a couple other mods with a new tune on that pcm one day but for the most part i want my car to last

 

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