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Hahn RaceCraft 06-27-2008 03:12 PM

SS/TC Upgrades from Hahn RaceCraft
 
It's official...we pick up our SS/TC today!

We are getting her from Lattof Chevy in Arlington Heights, Illinois. Those of you familiar with Crate Engine Depot, another fine vendor at this site, will recognize Lattof as CED's home base. We are pleased to work with such a faithful supporter of Cobalts in general and Cobaltss.net in particular!

As many of you know, Hahn RaceCraft has led the way with turbocharged Ecotecs since their emergence in the US with the 2002 Cavalier and Sunfire. Along the way, we've raised the bar repeatedly for Ecotec Turbo performance, while introducing hundreds of Ecotec owners to the sublime advantages of Turbocharged Power. Our very first Eco-effort won the prestigious GM Design Award at SEMA, an impressive 12-second, stock engine EcoCav show car that ran 12's with our bolt-on TurboSystem. We haven't looked back since, with more records and firsts than all others combined.

We're proud to bring our 20 years of GM FWD Turbo Performance to bear on this exciting new application of the LNF Turbo! We've had a great time with this engine so far in Solstice/Sky and HHR, and now it's the Cobalt's turn.

Products we'll offer include:
  • Our popular 3" Stainless Steel exhaust system, prized for its sound, valued for its HP
  • PPC Tuner
  • Intercooler Upgrade
  • Piping Upgrades
  • S20G Turbo Upgrade
....and much more!

The goal? High 11's on radials, stock engine, just like we did with our SRT-4. This is going to be fun!

schamsy 06-27-2008 03:14 PM

God bless you!

omgshesaboy 06-27-2008 03:15 PM

niice keep us updated plz!

NTSR_SS 06-27-2008 03:15 PM

gnarley!!! cant wait to see the results!!!

fubar993 06-27-2008 03:39 PM

Nice.. I sent your company an e-mail today wondering when you were going to start supporting the balt since you offer tunes, etc for the other 2.0L LNF vehicles already.
Yeah Haw...

SmokinJoe 06-27-2008 05:38 PM

A nice goal would be a high 12 sec SS/TC for less than $1500 in staged parts.

Hahn RaceCraft 06-27-2008 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by SmokinJoe (Post 2524727)
A nice goal would be a high 12 sec SS/TC for less than $1500 in staged parts.

I don't see that as impossible with traction :)

MadBrad 06-27-2008 05:41 PM

What is that huge ugly plastic tube sitting on top of the engine for the SS/TC and Soltice GXP?

Tomtwtwtw 06-27-2008 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by EcoBoost (Post 2524729)
I don't see that as impossible with traction :)

All you need from the power side of things is a computer, yes? I would think the stock turbo and fuel system is capable of producing 12-second power. Just need to get it to the ground...

Jimmys2007CobaltSS/C 06-27-2008 05:44 PM

wow!

SmokinJoe 06-27-2008 05:46 PM

I agree. The K04 is capable of pushing enough air to get the tq up in the low/mid 300's at the wheels. Hopefully the direct injection can be tuned effectively.

It appears (and I say this after only reading a couple of dynos) that the tq peak is being managed by the ECU. So maybe bolt ons will have a minimal effect without proper tuning. I could be way off base here.

Looking forward to your work Bill

IsItFast? 06-28-2008 05:47 AM

Im looking forward to the turbo upgrade! The stock turbo is WAY too undersized - it runs out of air around 4.5k rpm...

I just got my car dyno'd this weekend and the speed shop was pushing hard to let them start messing around with trying to tune it.. uh... no. :) They told me this was the first DI car they had dyno'd and were going to use my dyno charts as baselines to compare to other cars (AFR wise)

choko 06-28-2008 05:50 AM

Thumbs up Bill.

Ill talk to you on Monday when i call you.

SlowBalt_06 06-28-2008 05:55 AM

yea by just takin off the muffler

StinkBOMB 06-28-2008 05:59 AM

What a terrifying idea, the possibility of a privately owned Cobalt with a Hahn turbo system under the hood. This is terrible, Cobalts might actually become fast. :lol:

choko 06-28-2008 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by Tomtwtwtw (Post 2524741)
All you need from the power side of things is a computer, yes? I would think the stock turbo and fuel system is capable of producing 12-second power. Just need to get it to the ground...

Actually. When i go to NY im going to prove you can put a stock cobalt TC into the high 12's with just a few modifications. So with Bill's produtcts and our wonderfull ecotec, the skys the limit.

Edit. It was a statement and a fact, this is not my thread, so do not argue - send a message to me if you have a must to.


Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06 (Post 2526867)
yea by just takin off the muffler

Have you not read? anything? i never once said removing a muffler makes you fast & have crazy power.
It is barley a 5hp gain and thats only above 4k from what i seen on dyno testing.

You should be banned for trying to ruin someone elses thread ' a paying vender none the less' like you did mine '

SlowBalt_06 06-28-2008 07:20 AM

i dont care if it was jesus christ thread your a dump ass troll

ColeJJones 06-28-2008 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06 (Post 2526882)
i dont care if it was jesus christ thread your a dump ass troll

TIT! :lol:

SlowBalt_06 06-28-2008 08:13 AM

:cssNET:

SmokinJoe 06-28-2008 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by IsItFast? (Post 2526865)
Im looking forward to the turbo upgrade! The stock turbo is WAY too undersized - it runs out of air around 4.5k rpm...


This isnt correct. For a 2.0L motor, the K04 is adequately sized. It's efficiency range is actually quite nice and could easily handle 20psi. Like I said, mid 350wtq is achievable on the K04.

06blackg85ss 06-28-2008 08:57 AM

awesome Bill can't wait to see what you guys do with that thing. I definitely want some updates lol

Hahn RaceCraft 06-28-2008 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss (Post 2526954)
awesome Bill can't wait to see what you guys do with that thing. I definitely want some updates lol

Drove it home last night, and the wife's got it today. She'll be back soon, then I'll post some pics. I may be partial, but it's the best looking Cobalt I've ever seen!

IsItFast? 06-28-2008 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by SmokinJoe (Post 2526953)
This isnt correct. For a 2.0L motor, the K04 is adequately sized. It's efficiency range is actually quite nice and could easily handle 20psi. Like I said, mid 350wtq is achievable on the K04.

Im not convinced of that until I see it - the dyno runs just show a nice torque level that steadily drops down from its peak numbers.. Maybe this engine just needs the correct supporting mods, but it just feels asthmatic at higher RPMs.. Low to mid its GREAT. Maybe thats the way GM programmed the computer? Who knows until some serious tuning gets started.

TorontoSS 06-28-2008 04:01 PM

how long with the transmission last with such upgrades?

Hahn RaceCraft 06-28-2008 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by TorontoSS (Post 2527914)
how long with the transmission last with such upgrades?

Essentially forever...we've run these transmissions up to ludicrous power with no issues in other applications. It all comes down to not abusing it needlessly:

Slicks or Street Tires...What's best for driveline durability?


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