Does anyone know if the zzp cold side pipe comes with silicone couplers and t-bolts? I only ask because their site didn't say. I will be ordering both hot side with their silicone couplers and the cold side on thursday so any help would be much appreciated.

 

Yes it does. Make sure you get the block off plate for the MAF relocate mount. Even if you relocate the MAF, you need it on the intake side. If you don't relocate it, you need it on the CP.

 

Thanks for the help. I thought it would but wasn"t sure and I'll get the block off plate to.

 

Also I read somewhere that if you move the MAF you need to recalibrate it is this true and if so how do you do that.

 

You need to get it tuned by HP Tuners or Trifecta and have it logged and dialed in.

 

my maf is relocated to the cold pipe before the TB...am i wrong?

 

Wrong about what? Yeah that's where it goes on the ZZP lower CP.

The relocate shifts the fuel trims about 7% positive across the board and more at idle without tuning it out. Enough that it'll run better when tuned, not enough to throw a code at cruise.

 

so if thats true why am i having tuning issues with this damn relocate and vince is scratching his head.

 

IDK, PM me your email address and I'll send a screencap of my MAF freq & correction tables for E10 fuel and you can go from there with him if you like. He helps us, I can help you & him. I have hoours into getting this dialed in, especially at idle. Not going to be perfect on yours, but it should get it close unless you have other issues.

You might have a boost leak, it's not going to react the same to a leak as a pre-turbo MAF sensor. The flow past the MAF sensor won't reflect the same type of skew. (Thanks Term!)

Clean the MAF sensor with some electronic or MAF cleaner.

 

wait so this might help then, heres what happend..

while we were out data logging the shitty hahn clamp blew off the turbo inlet at WOT and im not sure if thats the log he saw or what but i went to autozone and bought worm drives and they seem to hold fine and we continued to log after that. sent the log to vince and he said something with my MAF is throwing my timing off and its reading rich and lean like a spike, at WOT it would hit 22psi then go down to 19 and shows my timing isnt right and he said its something with the MAF relocate thats not going right.

the direction of my MAF is with the arrow pointed up towards the TB and its located directly between the fans and the pipe so you can look down and see it right iin front of you.

Haza said he was having the same or simular issue with his car sent vince a log and figured out his new plugs were throwing him off so he got his issue fixed...i am on stock plugs so could cleaning my MAF and changing my plugs (i have new Iridium plugs in the garage waiting to go in) help my issue also?

 

The stock MAF location tends to go rich on throttle and pull fuel after the intake tract delay. The MAF relocate improves response time considerably and if it does anything, it adds a bit of fuel if it leans out. IDK how many LNF relocates he's done.

You have the same CP as I and the MAF is installed correctly. The plugs won't matter unless you are misfiring, but clean the MAF & reinstall it. Make sure the gasket is still on it, sometimes the rubber seal stays on the intake location.

My offer still stands for my MAF tables if you want them.

 

ok yea that would be good i hope and ill check that stuff on the MAF and i also just so you know have a HKS BOV that i had to adjust to get rid of turbo sputter but when i blew that clamp off and installed two worm drives the sputter came back so im assuming i need to adjust that BOV again also

but again Haza (my tuner) has the same setup

my email is ericgt79@yahoo.com

 

also since i have them anyways is it a good idea for me to just go ahead and change those plugs out since i have them?....just have to find the correct gap before i install.

 

Gap the plugs to .032, which ones?

The BOV makes it harder to tune. Might be popping early or leaking, ect. I kept the stock BPV.

 

maybe because its out of adjustment and causing turbo flutter its the problem.

NGK 1 step colder iridium plugs...not the 1787's that come pre gapped

 

6509's? Gap them down very carefully.

 

those would be the ones

 

im just gonna trade my hot pipe and BOV to someone who wants it and go back BPV...so much for my aggressive sound

 

Smart choice, performance over a noisemaker.

OP - sorry for the threadjack.

 

when vince checked my tune, it was not the maf that was the issue as it was yours.
my timing was just off. its been fixed.
the reason your maf is not working right is because the piping size on your cold side is too small and your maf freq was reading 15. that is way to high for the maf to even figure out was it going on. your cold side pipe needs to be bigger as vince told ya. my clear image cold side, has no issues as far as the maf reading frequency.

 

i like the aggressive sound, but i was also going to do a turbo build.
since i'm not doing that anymore since i don't want the car anymore i'm eventually gonna sell the car and part everything out. gotta get neg equity down though.

 

If the MAF freq is going to 15k, you have a dirty MAF or water in the intercooler blowing out during boost spraying the MAF sensor. Experience talking here. The ZZP CP pipe diameter /MAF location is fine. Condensation will accumulate in the IC under the right conditions.

Fully bolted stock turbo boosting 25 psi will just drive it over 10k on the ZZP lower CP relocate unless you have other issues. It's hard to diagnose over the internetz.

 

i dont have the zzp cold pipe i have Hahn cold pipes...i have the whole hahn kit hot and cold

 

What is the ID of the pipe at the MAF sensor? If less than 3", that would explain the abnormally high MAF freq output.

 

damn i dont know ill have to research it

gonna do it now