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Old 02-18-2011, 08:42 AM
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I'll post up a vid when I get home of the badmab header with the GMPP exhaust I put on last night. Here it is with a ZZP 3" DP, weld in glasspack for the resonator, and a weld in offset magnaflow. There's a bunch of other vids on my youtube page at the track, crusing, in-car, etc if you want to hear it from different angles.

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Old 02-18-2011, 08:57 AM
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I had the same issue with the bolts in mine, i didnt reuse the stockers I decided to get a 3 new nuts and bolts and kind make a clamp so to speak.
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Dam stone thats one of the best sounding LSJ's ive heard to date
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Originally Posted by sjc0013
you should message RiceCop, he gets these cheap for like 160 or something is what he got me mine for, great guy to deal with
Thanks man


Yes I do run my own site and we are authorized distributors of Bad Mab produts and now Treadstone though they are not on the site yet. Bad Mab stuff is on sale right now until the end of the month.




sjc0013, keep me in your contacts, let me know what else you need and I'll take care of you.
Old 02-18-2011, 11:03 AM
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^ Will do!
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that is a good header for the price. Seem the average gain is 10 whp. Not bad for 200 bucks
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Not at all!
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$20 a horse is a very respectable purchase in my book!
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Originally Posted by 1LowLS
Dam stone thats one of the best sounding LSJ's ive heard to date
Appreciate it man!
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Just ordered one, probably through RiceCop - IDK.


Can't wait, I'm super pumped.


going 2.8 next month
Old 02-19-2011, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 1LowLS
Dam stone thats one of the best sounding LSJ's ive heard to date
wow its a 4cyl supercharged... it sounds like a honda. clear your ears
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Don't turn my review thread into another failbus thread over an exhaust note.
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Why is everyone so excited about this thing? Why not get a long-tube header. The gains to be had over a shorty manifold style header are quite notable..
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cuz the badmab is only $190...not $700
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ORLY............

I paid $565.61 for my ZZP long-tube header and catless DP. I don't know I guess I'm not the "bang for your buck" kind of guy, I'm "give me what ever will provide the best gains".
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Badmab 16 months in and 2 Wisconsin winters.
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Originally Posted by xxxxsh4d0wxxxx
ORLY............

I paid $565.61 for my ZZP long-tube header and catless DP. I don't know I guess I'm not the "bang for your buck" kind of guy, I'm "give me what ever will provide the best gains".
That's still almost $400 difference. The real question is, how much more power are you making with the LT? If its a 5 whp peak difference, then its in no way worth the extra 400 bucks. I'd like to see the power difference under the curve as well....
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Originally Posted by xxxxsh4d0wxxxx
ORLY............

I paid $565.61 for my ZZP long-tube header and catless DP. I don't know I guess I'm not the "bang for your buck" kind of guy, I'm "give me what ever will provide the best gains".
There is no proof at all that the ZZP header will give the best gains though. Yes, in theory it should, but where is the actual proof from ZZP?? That is the problem with the vendors that supply us parts. They talk up a product saying it will be the best, but do they ever provide us with real world numbers?? No.

We buy products based on what others say about the particular item, or what it is claimed to actually do for us. We do this (most of the time) w/o actual results/data, or because we like the particular vendor selling the item.

I am by no means talking down on your long tube purchase (its a quality header), but only speaking the truth about what usually starts the wars on this site when it comes to deciding which part is better than the other. So, in short, lets keep this thread (which is intended as a review for the Badmab header) clean, and without fights on which header is better.

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Originally Posted by xxxxsh4d0wxxxx
ORLY............

I paid $565.61 for my ZZP long-tube header and catless DP. I don't know I guess I'm not the "bang for your buck" kind of guy, I'm "give me what ever will provide the best gains".
Yea and ur gm stage 2 I bet ur gains were HUGE..
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This will be my next purchase.
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Originally Posted by 06SS ALL DAY
wow its a 4cyl supercharged... it sounds like a honda. clear your ears
Sounds nothing like a Honda,and usually anything SC sounds raspy as **** as my SC 2.2L is raspy as hell.Honda's have there own distinct sound and Cobalt's don't sound like them at all.Just my opinion.I like the way dudes car sounded.So fukn sue me.
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I bought the bad mab from Brad as well. Really nice guy and has a hell of a warranty.
Product was shipped really fast and had no issues with bolts or install myself.
Definately nice gains according to HPT. Heading to the dyno on March 5th.

Put down 253/223 last time with a 2.9,42's, Injen CAI,DP,BYT Tune and ran 13.4@104

Added Bad-Mab to Megan Exhaust, 60's,2.8, ZZP 3 Intake, Meth Kit. So unfortunately i will only get numbers for the upgrades i added and not just the badmab.

ZZP makes good stuff and is one of the reason why most of my parts are from them. I personally could not see a point in spending almost 400 more though for this item.
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Originally Posted by dspeed123


Badmab 16 months in and 2 Wisconsin winters.
This is what I like to see and helps my review. Someone who has time on the header and shows it still holding up great. Thanks for adding that!
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There is no proof at all that the ZZP header will give the best gains though. Yes, in theory it should, but where is the actual proof from ZZP?? That is the problem with the vendors that supply us parts. They talk up a product saying it will be the best, but do they ever provide us with real world numbers?? No.

We buy products based on what others say about the particular item, or what it is claimed to actually do for us. We do this (most of the time) w/o actual results/data, or because we like the particular vendor selling the item.

I am by no means talking down on your long tube purchase (its a quality header), but only speaking the truth about what usually starts the wars on this site when it comes to deciding which part is better than the other. So, in short, lets keep this thread (which is intended as a review for the Badmab header) clean, and without fights on which header is better.

This. I usually look at others reviews on price vs gain, quality, and any hassle associated with purchase and compare to other companies selling similar items whether it be for a header., intake, hood or whatever. In this application I found many reviews that said it was a quick and easy transaction, fast shipping, the price was right, and the waranty was untouchabe by any of the bigger companies on the site.
then once purchased I made this thread so someone else doing the same review I do before a purchase would have an unbiased, real world opinion on a product, not by a fanboi. Of a particular company that bought from company a because they said there's is the best just because
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That's still almost $400 difference. The real question is, how much more power are you making with the LT? If its a 5 whp peak difference, then its in no way worth the extra 400 bucks. I'd like to see the power difference under the curve as well....
Long-tubes are very known to give better "under the curve" hp and tq. This is old news.

Originally Posted by Staged07SS
There is no proof at all that the ZZP header will give the best gains though. Yes, in theory it should, but where is the actual proof from ZZP?? That is the problem with the vendors that supply us parts. They talk up a product saying it will be the best, but do they ever provide us with real world numbers?? No.

We buy products based on what others say about the particular item, or what it is claimed to actually do for us. We do this (most of the time) w/o actual results/data, or because we like the particular vendor selling the item.

I am by no means talking down on your long tube purchase (its a quality header), but only speaking the truth about what usually starts the wars on this site when it comes to deciding which part is better than the other. So, in short, lets keep this thread (which is intended as a review for the Badmab header) clean, and without fights on which header is better.
It's not ZZP, it's the fact that long-tube > shorty manifold. Like I said, this is old news. You get what you pay for. You will ALWAYS get more power with a long-tube. I am not going to cite specific examples. There is an entire internet out there for you, and who ever refuses to believe otherwise, out there. So spend some time and read a little about how motors work and how long-tubes also help the scavenging effect. The only car that should be running a shorty style exhaust manifold is a turbo car. End of story. They do not need scavenging.

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Yea and ur gm stage 2 I bet ur gains were HUGE..
You're an idiot. Have fun with your cute manifold. It's not even a header.

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