qwikredline

Hey Selfinfliction! Here is what Zoomer posted:
Quote:"On the answers to the balance shafts and many other questions, it can be pointless to go over. If vendors not going to be accurate and honest about the products and customers don't care, why bother to respond at all? If you, the customers, are not holding vendors accountable for being honest, then you get shody products and cars not performaning as well as you'd like."

Thats what Zoomer says: So send him an email or better still a thread He said it: Hold him accountable...

selfinfliction

hey good catch. i'm going to buy one of those gaskets from remflex and if it fixes the issue i'll see if they will reimburse me for the expenses of it. the issue now is just based on principle, not the 20 bucks for the gasket

can you send me a link to where he said that? i'd like to get a screenshot of it in case the gasket doesn't fix this and it gets expensive, i'll just turn the mess over to my gf to work on with them. cause i've spent $260 on coating this thing plus the $400 or whatever it was as the initial charge

YzRider452

Well spend an extra 60 and weld a 3 bolt flange onto it.

selfinfliction

ah ok, so now i should take it all off, have to buy another $25 copper gasket, pay $60 to get new flanges welded on and then buy new gaskets.

sounds like a plan to me

hell for that much money i could've had a time attack exhaust replica built lol

rico

now that u say that. hahn does too on the dp

now that u say that. hahn does too on the dp

SuperchargedSS

CTI FTW.


ZZP is just a bad design, get rid of it.
The Vibrant produces a buzzsaw sound that makes me gag. Nice header, sounds like rice.

GM>urpos

ultra copper! use that and it will solve the problem. its like 6 bucks at autozone

Gestapo007

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intrest sub

kissrocker52

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so is the zzp not worth it i was going to buy the header downpipe combo

selfinfliction

yeah it'll burn right off buddy, it's only rated to like 700 degrees on an intermittent basis

qwikredline

ya i got those its a corsa 3 inch but goes straight back right through your gas tank, coz - no stock fuel tank....so no w bend


go to the balance shaft thread on this page and you will find the Zoomer quote....its long....hard to miss.

i use permatex orange hi temp slimeycone, 1372 or something i dont use gaskets anymore other than the fine CTI copper head flange gasket. I got NO leaks. I also dont use cheap muffler clamps I use one inch corsa band clamps...torqued to 45 ft lbs andthen after a run rotated and retorqued...

selfinfliction

thanks, got it

qwikredline

Ya know some days I read the various posts and I get dicked at folks. Rico for example. Hahn (example of a Hahn downpipe) shown here. What a nice piece! use 3 inch at the manifold, then 2 inch at the cat back, and some (Hahn, and DC sports) use a 2 bolt flange rather than a sleeve and clamp for the axle over


Whether it is two bolt or three, if the flange is made of too thin or too cheap material, there is a risk it wont seal. The OP (Self infliction in this case) put his system on brand new and it leaked. Not Good.

If you look around, you can get cheap, you can get copies, you can get really good. I am betting that Hahn systems are 100%, Vibrants also, CTI very good and less money...

Whatever system you use, I recommend using Permatex orange gasket sealer . And for Selfinfliction, hopefully Zoomer will step up and walk the talk he lays out here...
The reason this ZZP header is fail is clear:

JapEatr

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i had the folks at Clear Image Auto build me a header with interchangable DPs(cat and catless)

THe ball-in-socket flange at the header is awesome and seals tight, i special ordered the DPs with VBand clamps on the catback side

this is my 4th header setup on this car and by far the best i have encountered

qwikredline

Ya know you may be right on...I see a lot of Kooks headers with that flange and they work very well
these are one side of a V8 header, so they are 2 bolt flanges. Look at the thickness of the flange... and the socket


Finally here is a merge collector slip on fit with a 1 inch band clamp. This wont work on a 4cyl ecotec, because the motor moves too much. These Corvettes dont have stock hydraulic mounts, but they also come with a torque tube drive train which limits travel anyway


So for an ecotec you need a three bolt flange or a two bolt ball seat like Japetr has pointed out

rico

OH i was not complaning or anything lol I just read about the 2 bolt flange and rememberred that my hahn dp is a 3" 2 bolt flange and putted it out there lol

JapEatr

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I learned the hard way and spent a ton more money in the process of trying BS fixes

but i am happy with my current setup...i eliminated the need for gaskets throughout the whole system with the exception of the exhaust manifold gasket, which i copper coated...when i build the motor i am going to ditch the studs and just use socket cap machine screws, which will be torqued while on the engine stand

BlackJackSS

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i didnt take any pictures... but today i got my flange cut off and i had a lil piece of pip welded in. thats how desperate i was to get rid of the leak.

selfinfliction

got my remflex gaskets in today, will try to install them some day this week

it's 1/8" thick solid graphite





if this don't fix it, it'll be impossible to seal a leak on their flanges, and then it turns into their problem

qwikredline

put some permatex orange on it, otherwise selfinfl it will leak coz the ZZP flange is probably flat like the rocky mountains...

selfinfliction

the remflex is a 50% crush and rebounds. that's why these things are expensive... gasket sealer would blow right out of a gap 1/16" .. these seal up to that size

qwikredline

well good let us know how it works out....

JapEatr

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if i had of known about these gaskets, i would still have that header...

but i am glad i switched!

selfinfliction

if this was just stock still i would sell them too, but i already spent too much money getting them coated.

hell if i knew they would be bad from the get go i could've had them planed before installing which would eliminate this entire mess.

07MetallicSC

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you mean all that research and development and everyone else is crap talk from zoomer is false?! nooooooo lol.