Detailed LSJ Build up!
HA!
I didn't know what it was either. I believe CED has a faq that says the stock pistons are only good for 310hp. However I know for a fact that there are some on here running higher than that and they seem to be holding pretty good. But I could be mistaken on the hp numbers for the people on here using stock internals.
Wow, lotta slow people here with 2 cents to contribute to this thread.
First, great choice on a build imo.
2nd, the GMR cams, you don't have the valvetrain needed to support it nor is it worth it. To regrind that deep is just stupid.
Intake manifold is fine, measure aftermarket map voltage on a reference line to boost bypass and compare it to stock MAP if you doubt it.
I would ditch that stock blower though. You could probably find a turbo swap or TVS used cheap now.
First, great choice on a build imo.
2nd, the GMR cams, you don't have the valvetrain needed to support it nor is it worth it. To regrind that deep is just stupid.
Intake manifold is fine, measure aftermarket map voltage on a reference line to boost bypass and compare it to stock MAP if you doubt it.
I would ditch that stock blower though. You could probably find a turbo swap or TVS used cheap now.
So what happened to your original motor?
Also, keep the 272's, and ignore the GM-R's. You could technically get away with ditching the cam sensor, and using a 2.2 shortened exhaust cam. Just need to plug the head.
Also, keep the 272's, and ignore the GM-R's. You could technically get away with ditching the cam sensor, and using a 2.2 shortened exhaust cam. Just need to plug the head.
Wow...this is serious.
If I understood correctly the stock internals are good up to at least 350HP.
If you went through all this trouble/fortune, you might as well aim for 350HP+
Wish I had a few thou right now. I would go TVS as well, cause I like SC over TC
BTW, where did you get those axles
Don't they come as the official picture (below) illustrates

Just wondering
If I understood correctly the stock internals are good up to at least 350HP.
If you went through all this trouble/fortune, you might as well aim for 350HP+
Wish I had a few thou right now. I would go TVS as well, cause I like SC over TC
BTW, where did you get those axles
Don't they come as the official picture (below) illustrates

Just wondering
Wow, lotta slow people here with 2 cents to contribute to this thread.
First, great choice on a build imo.
2nd, the GMR cams, you don't have the valvetrain needed to support it nor is it worth it. To regrind that deep is just stupid.
Intake manifold is fine, measure aftermarket map voltage on a reference line to boost bypass and compare it to stock MAP if you doubt it.
I would ditch that stock blower though. You could probably find a turbo swap or TVS used cheap now.
First, great choice on a build imo.
2nd, the GMR cams, you don't have the valvetrain needed to support it nor is it worth it. To regrind that deep is just stupid.
Intake manifold is fine, measure aftermarket map voltage on a reference line to boost bypass and compare it to stock MAP if you doubt it.
I would ditch that stock blower though. You could probably find a turbo swap or TVS used cheap now.
it blew apart! haha it was very horrible!
Last edited by red_line_cobalt; Oct 6, 2008 at 09:31 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
If you get stuck on something shoot me a PM. I/WSFrazier have 3 built motors with over 50k miles combined on them with parts similar to what you are using.
My car ran a 2.5" ring with 10:1 pistons, and the one I flew to California to work on ran a 2.6" ring and 10:1's as well.
Mine had ARP Headstuds, Cometic gasket, 10:1 pistons, and a milled head that might have affected compression slightly.
The other one in Cali had all that, plus 272 cams and Crower rods. Also ported head, 3 angle valve job, and ported intake manifold.
The other one in Cali had all that, plus 272 cams and Crower rods. Also ported head, 3 angle valve job, and ported intake manifold.
Last edited by WSFrazier; Oct 6, 2008 at 10:32 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
ok well i feel a little better about how long my motor will last then thanks haha.
but i still would really like to go with a TVS
that is the one thing i held out on was the rods... i hope i dont kick my ass later about it... but i did get ARP rod bolts...
but i still would really like to go with a TVS
that is the one thing i held out on was the rods... i hope i dont kick my ass later about it... but i did get ARP rod bolts...
Last edited by red_line_cobalt; Oct 6, 2008 at 10:33 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
The stocker is indeed 'fine'. But still licks ass compared to the alternatives.
On another note.... are you telling him to measure the same boost source twice to verify something? Maybe it's too early in the morning here.... but measuring the boost in the bypass line (the one that we hook up aftermarket gauges to), and the boost seen my the OEM MAP sensor WILL be identical... considering both are within inches of each other in the manifold.
You're fine. People are breaking sleeves before they do rods. Would be pointless to invest in rods and then skip out on the Darton MID's.
my motor runs fine... its hard to keep a tranny to last.
well i had the Cobalt addiction stage 4 with stock pistons... haha bad idea... she lasted about an hour, that was at 3k miles on the car
then i rebuilt it with diamond pistons... and a custom tune... (which was a shitty ass tune!!!!) i let the motor breaking slowly... then gave it her first hard run and blew the clutch so i got a clutch kit, then broke that in and started to drive it how it should be again and it lasted a week of here and there driving. she blew up going down the highway at 110mph... the piston completely fuked up in the cylinder, the rod went through the block in 2 spots and left a huge hole in it! and the back side of the block cracked in half!... we pulled more metal out of the oil pan and intake/exhaust ports then you would beleive.
then i rebuilt it with diamond pistons... and a custom tune... (which was a shitty ass tune!!!!) i let the motor breaking slowly... then gave it her first hard run and blew the clutch so i got a clutch kit, then broke that in and started to drive it how it should be again and it lasted a week of here and there driving. she blew up going down the highway at 110mph... the piston completely fuked up in the cylinder, the rod went through the block in 2 spots and left a huge hole in it! and the back side of the block cracked in half!... we pulled more metal out of the oil pan and intake/exhaust ports then you would beleive.
Good to hear on the engine, sucks about trans though. If I have trans problems in the future I'll probably end up cryoing the quaife 6 speed set.
Did you spin a rod bearing or something?
well i had the Cobalt addiction stage 4 with stock pistons... haha bad idea... she lasted about an hour, that was at 3k miles on the car
then i rebuilt it with diamond pistons... and a custom tune... (which was a shitty ass tune!!!!) i let the motor breaking slowly... then gave it her first hard run and blew the clutch so i got a clutch kit, then broke that in and started to drive it how it should be again and it lasted a week of here and there driving. she blew up going down the highway at 110mph... the piston completely fuked up in the cylinder, the rod went through the block in 2 spots and left a huge hole in it! and the back side of the block cracked in half!... we pulled more metal out of the oil pan and intake/exhaust ports then you would beleive.
then i rebuilt it with diamond pistons... and a custom tune... (which was a shitty ass tune!!!!) i let the motor breaking slowly... then gave it her first hard run and blew the clutch so i got a clutch kit, then broke that in and started to drive it how it should be again and it lasted a week of here and there driving. she blew up going down the highway at 110mph... the piston completely fuked up in the cylinder, the rod went through the block in 2 spots and left a huge hole in it! and the back side of the block cracked in half!... we pulled more metal out of the oil pan and intake/exhaust ports then you would beleive.
If only I was ready to release my latest tests. 
The stocker is indeed 'fine'. But still licks ass compared to the alternatives.
On another note.... are you telling him to measure the same boost source twice to verify something? Maybe it's too early in the morning here.... but measuring the boost in the bypass line (the one that we hook up aftermarket gauges to), and the boost seen my the OEM MAP sensor WILL be identical... considering both are within inches of each other in the manifold.
The stocker is indeed 'fine'. But still licks ass compared to the alternatives.
On another note.... are you telling him to measure the same boost source twice to verify something? Maybe it's too early in the morning here.... but measuring the boost in the bypass line (the one that we hook up aftermarket gauges to), and the boost seen my the OEM MAP sensor WILL be identical... considering both are within inches of each other in the manifold.


