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agitator 11-28-2016 06:44 PM

Dont think these plugs are good anymore
 
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...5b954b3e72.jpg

zeeky420 11-28-2016 07:06 PM

First problem is they are Boosh POS plugs

agitator 11-28-2016 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by zeeky420 (Post 7630817)
First problem is they are Boosh POS plugs

Im goin to email the co. They dont even have 1k miles on them

63 Nova SS 11-28-2016 07:57 PM

Umm if you ask me it looks like you have motor trouble not spark plug trouble. 2 of the plugs look good, but you may want to make sure you don't have issues in the cylinders that the 2 plugs that have the tips eaten off of. How much timing are you running and do you have knock? Any fueling problems, like running too lean?

agitator 11-28-2016 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by 63 Nova SS (Post 7630822)
Umm if you ask me it looks like you have motor trouble not spark plug trouble. 2 of the plugs look good, but you may want to make sure you don't have issues in the cylinders that the 2 plugs that have the tips eaten off of. How much timing are you running and do you have knock? Any fueling problems, like running too lean?

I did have a code of bank 1 too lean. When i pulled the plugs out of cyl 1 and 3 they wasnt tight. So i think that couldve been the reason. I have no knock or fuel issues

63 Nova SS 11-28-2016 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by agitator (Post 7630827)
I did have a code of bank 1 too lean. When i pulled the plugs out of cyl 1 and 3 they wasnt tight. So i think that couldve been the reason. I have no knock or fuel issues

Those plugs aren't burnt due to manufacturing defect, they are toast because of the motor is my guess. Will be curious to see what the newly installed ones look like. Do you have a way to log the car using up tuners software?

63 Nova SS 11-28-2016 09:20 PM

The one on top really looks bad. You may want to run a compression test while they are out.

Sharkey 11-28-2016 09:25 PM

do you have an lsj? cause those are not the correct plugs for an lsj. they are the wrong seat type (tapered vs crush washer) and the wrong length. lsj plugs are a standard 3/4" reach, those look like a 1" reach. they look like the plugs that would be in a 2.2l or 2.4l.

you have something else going on there as well. could you stand the plugs up and get pics of them, id like to have a look at the porcelin

63 Nova SS 11-28-2016 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by Sharkey (Post 7630835)
do you have an lsj? cause those are not the correct plugs for an lsj. they are the wrong seat type (tapered vs crush washer) and the wrong length. lsj plugs are a standard 3/4" reach, those look like a 1" reach. they look like the plugs that would be in a 2.2l or 2.4l. you have something else going on there as well. could you stand the plugs up and get pics of them, id like to have a look at the porcelin

The porcelain on the top plug is toast and what bothers me is it looks like heavy oil/carbon buildup on the plug also. I have no clue how the car could have ran worth crap.

ECaulk 11-28-2016 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by agitator (Post 7630827)
I did have a code of bank 1 too lean. When i pulled the plugs out of cyl 1 and 3 they wasnt tight. So i think that couldve been the reason. I have no knock or fuel issues

I4 engines only have 1 bank, you're running lean. Also address the concerns about the correct plugs for an lsj.

hawkssoccer11 11-29-2016 09:23 AM

looks like this dude has an SS/SC. so there for sharkey you are right and those plugs would be wrong if in fact this is his SS/SC. this is where research and a torque wrench come into play as a prime example, esp if the plugs werent even tight let alone the wrong ones.

umrdyldo 11-29-2016 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Sharkey (Post 7630835)
do you have an lsj? cause those are not the correct plugs for an lsj. they are the wrong seat type (tapered vs crush washer) and the wrong length. lsj plugs are a standard 3/4" reach, those look like a 1" reach. they look like the plugs that would be in a 2.2l or 2.4l.

you have something else going on there as well. could you stand the plugs up and get pics of them, id like to have a look at the porcelin

You seem to be correct. 2 of those plugs have the ends of the threads eaten away at, which tells me there were in the combustion chamber possibly.

Staged07SS 11-29-2016 10:35 AM

Def the incorrect plugs for an LSJ.

agitator 11-29-2016 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Staged07SS (Post 7630867)
Def the incorrect plugs for an LSJ.

I went to autozone lastnight. They tried to give me the wrong plugs again. The guy said they will fit 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4. I blew up on the guy. He looked it up under a 2.0 and they were def the wrong ones

agitator 11-29-2016 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by 63 Nova SS (Post 7630833)
Those plugs aren't burnt due to manufacturing defect, they are toast because of the motor is my guess. Will be curious to see what the newly installed ones look like. Do you have a way to log the car using up tuners software?

I dont have a tune on the car

agitator 11-29-2016 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Sharkey (Post 7630835)
do you have an lsj? cause those are not the correct plugs for an lsj. they are the wrong seat type (tapered vs crush washer) and the wrong length. lsj plugs are a standard 3/4" reach, those look like a 1" reach. they look like the plugs that would be in a 2.2l or 2.4l.

you have something else going on there as well. could you stand the plugs up and get pics of them, id like to have a look at the porcelin


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...573b205dba.jpg
Heres the porcelain

agitator 11-29-2016 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by 63 Nova SS (Post 7630834)
The one on top really looks bad. You may want to run a compression test while they are out.

Im getting a compression test done tonight at my buddys garage

Sharkey 11-29-2016 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by agitator (Post 7630893)
Heres the porcelain

the other porcelain. flip the plug over.

Staged07SS 11-30-2016 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by agitator (Post 7630891)
I went to autozone lastnight. They tried to give me the wrong plugs again. The guy said they will fit 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4. I blew up on the guy. He looked it up under a 2.0 and they were def the wrong ones

Ecotec 2.0 LSJ Spark Plugs 41-106 12610767

^These are the correct factory plugs you want...

You can also snag up NGK BKR7's at autozone for cheap and are also a plug that works on the LSJ. Never rely on a parts guy behind a desk.... Especially one at Autozone.

double clutch 11-30-2016 01:52 PM

This i why if i ever go to a parts store, i always write down the exact part number i need. Gotta dummy proof it.

user 72239 11-30-2016 03:05 PM

NGKs work for LSJ too? I should see what those cost on Amazon.

Snail_SS 11-30-2016 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by leemanfor (Post 7631015)
NGKs work for LSJ too? I should see what those cost on Amazon.

Yup look at post 19

double clutch 11-30-2016 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by leemanfor (Post 7631015)
NGKs work for LSJ too? I should see what those cost on Amazon.

When I had an lsj, autozone stocked the correct ngk plug. Just a thought

ItalianJoe1 11-30-2016 09:23 PM

Just go ask for a BKR7E plug, don't let them look it up by car.

If you have to though, an Evo, from like 2006 or whatever, calls for those NGK plugs stock.

Sharkey 11-30-2016 10:42 PM

some parts guys ive found cant figure out what an ngk bkr7e plug is. if thats the case, give them the stock number, 4644


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