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SlowCobaltSS Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM

Little Advise On Mods
 
:cssNET:Ok here's the deal Im going to be getting some mods for my car here really soon just waiting on my tax return check to hit the bank.

Ok, Im getting back $3500.00 this year *Please don't say do a turbo swap I dont want to*

Here's my idea's so far
Zzp 2.8 modular pulley
I already have 60lb injectors
Dual pass end plate W/Opition B Coolant Reservoir
Zzp 2.5 Catless downpipe *thinking about badmab header*
New clutch being ordered from Crate Engine Depot
A set of BFG drag radials and a set of rims for them
New tires for the car because the ones I have now suck *Goodyears*

Help me out what else would u look into

Whitnith Jan 20, 2012 11:34 AM

Get the Badmab for sure.

Also remember if you're not installing the clutch yourself, that can be a pretty expensive install bill from a shop. So keep that in mind for your budget.

dakotaspeir Jan 20, 2012 11:36 AM

Paint those headlight black! lol

574 Jan 20, 2012 11:39 AM

Get a heat exchanger yet?short shifter... momo ebrake?

sick CCSS Jan 20, 2012 11:41 AM

you shouldnt need meth, but im running every cooling mod for the LSJ and a 3.0 pulley and a AIS trunk mount stage 1 meth system. meth is a good uprgrade IMO, love mine.

SlowCobaltSS Jan 20, 2012 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by dakotaspeir (Post 6286200)
Paint those headlight black! lol

Thats going to be done also


Originally Posted by Whitnith (Post 6286195)
Get the Badmab for sure.

Also remember if you're not installing the clutch yourself, that can be a pretty expensive install bill from a shop. So keep that in mind for your budget.

Getting some buddys to help out on this


Originally Posted by 574 (Post 6286208)
Get a heat exchanger yet?short shifter... momo ebrake?

I have a zzp s2 h/e I forgot about the short shifter not a momo ebrake handle fan

SlowCobaltSS Jan 20, 2012 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by sick CCSS (Post 6286217)
you shouldnt need meth, but im running every cooling mod for the LSJ and a 3.0 pulley and a AIS trunk mount stage 1 meth system. meth is a good uprgrade IMO, love mine.

Ok as far as the meth injection I dont know I just looked into it alittle and basically all i came up with is that it lowers the intake temp * Im doing all the cooling mods that are out there for the LSJ* you can run more timing * could I run more time if I had a meth injection kit or if I would order some 80lb injectors and ran E85?

Bluelightning Jan 20, 2012 12:01 PM

Throw in a phenolic spacer. It's a great bang for the buck. Meth or E will allow you to run a much more agressive tune.

zfissette Jan 20, 2012 12:10 PM

if its a big wad of cash do a big upgrade, clutch, 80s, axles, tvs. you can do the nickle and dime stuff on week to week cash.

heathkidder Jan 20, 2012 12:14 PM

Catback?

SlowCobaltSS Jan 20, 2012 12:19 PM

I have a magnaflow muffler and piping from the resonator back Im thinking about put the stock lsj muffler back on tho


Originally Posted by zfissette (Post 6286279)
if its a big wad of cash do a big upgrade, clutch, 80s, axles, tvs. you can do the nickle and dime stuff on week to week cash.

I want stock m62 power if I wanted a shit load of power I would do a turbo swap

silverblur06ss Jan 20, 2012 12:41 PM

if you want power you need to get a better free flowing exhaust.

SCcobaltSS Jan 20, 2012 12:55 PM

Dont put the stock muffler on. If you dont like the sound review sound clips and change to a flowing muffler.

IMO I would go 80's and E85. Yes you suffer on gas mileage but you dont have to worry about not having meth in the bottle or a mechanical/electrical issue with the meth kit when you are into it and screw something up because you are at max timing.

On your setup I would run 50/50 E85/91. Yes its more difficult at the pump but I will still be able to tune you to max timing and your gass mileage wont suffer as much.

You should be getting the LSJ upgraded clutch not stock. I am guessing you are.

Order a fuel pump rewire kit from ZZP or OTTP, or look at a picture online and piece the kit together for cheaper. Its cheap and worth the extra room for the injectors.

Oh and another note. I only get $400 back and I bought a hosue this year, got married, etc. You suck.

SlowCobaltSS Jan 20, 2012 02:44 PM

This is the clutch im ordering and im also going to get a new flywheel and flywheel bolts Comes to around 500.00 with shipping

Ecotec LSJ Clutch Upgrade Kit 19212712 - Crate Engine Depot

SCcobaltSS Jan 20, 2012 02:50 PM

You can, more than likely, just machine the flywheel. No need for a new one. Bolts yes, TTY.

YelCal7 Jan 20, 2012 02:51 PM

Get BAD MAB header with ZZP 3 inches catted to 2.5 bolt in.

RHZ Jan 20, 2012 02:55 PM

Save your money for one of these.

http://media.caranddriver.com/images...-s-520x318.jpg

07MetallicSC Jan 20, 2012 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by silverblur06ss (Post 6286348)
if you want power you need to get a better free flowing exhaust.

for his power level itll be fine.

if he wants exhaust related power, porting the exhaust ports on the head will be more beneficial

sick CCSS Jan 20, 2012 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by SlowCobaltSS (Post 6286257)
Ok as far as the meth injection I dont know I just looked into it alittle and basically all i came up with is that it lowers the intake temp * Im doing all the cooling mods that are out there for the LSJ* you can run more timing * could I run more time if I had a meth injection kit or if I would order some 80lb injectors and ran E85?

well, if you get the meth kit, get a canned tune to get you up and running, zzp canned tune works good with my car, basically if you get it tuned for meth, you will see some performance gains plus lower AIT's. the tunes usally lean them out at WOT and add some timming. if you wanna get the most out of it, then get it on a dyno and have it tuned that way. ill be doing this in the spring.

SCcobaltSS Jan 20, 2012 04:53 PM

A canned tune will not yeild him any power nor will it for you. It is difficult for whoever made the canned tune to tune for the differences in the meth systems i.e. progressive vs. standard.

I would suggest custom tune from the beginning when you are dealing with those type of power adders. Also a WB is a must. With a custom tune logging WB error it is simple and easy to tune for the added fuel in certain MAF/VE cells.

Besides Sick CCSS he has a custom tune already and I will be finishing it when he gets all the parts.

SlowCobaltSS Jan 20, 2012 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by sick CCSS (Post 6287078)
well, if you get the meth kit, get a canned tune to get you up and running, zzp canned tune works good with my car, basically if you get it tuned for meth, you will see some performance gains plus lower AIT's. the tunes usally lean them out at WOT and add some timming. if you wanna get the most out of it, then get it on a dyno and have it tuned that way. ill be doing this in the spring.

SCcobaltSS is my tuner

sick CCSS Jan 20, 2012 05:04 PM

oo ok sorry, i missed that lol, well in that case, your good to go as far as tuning!

SCcobaltSS Jan 20, 2012 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by sick CCSS (Post 6287129)
oo ok sorry, i missed that lol, well in that case, your good to go as far as tuning!

Friendly tip for you, save for a custome tune dont go canned. Its a waste.

YelCal7 Jan 20, 2012 05:08 PM

I have OTTP tune in my car and have NO problems. I would chose OTTP than ZZP tune. And whatever happen to your car when you install either OTTP or ZZP tune to your car. ZZP WILL NOT get back to you ASAP! OTTP does GET BACK to you really fast. Josh is from OTTP and he has text. Whatever wrong then you text him. He will get back to you and solve the problems. While ZZP can't, they only get back to you through email a day or 2. That's SUCKS! It's your money and you decide.

SlowCobaltSS Jan 20, 2012 07:03 PM

I like my tuner better hes a phone call away :lol:


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