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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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umm I'm on the list for this and I've been keeping my mouth shut for a while, but 1 they never asked for money from me, they said they'd wait untill enough people signed up, I'm assuming this is the way it is with the others, 2 when I signed up I was told the money I sent in would be applied to the cost, so if u didnt sign up for this you shouldnt be telling people where the moneys going or even that they have all are money already, just putting that out there
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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You obviously don't know anything about RAW then, NEWB! Do some research.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by paul1588
umm I'm on the list for this and I've been keeping my mouth shut for a while, but 1 they never asked for money from me, they said they'd wait untill enough people signed up, I'm assuming this is the way it is with the others, 2 when I signed up I was told the money I sent in would be applied to the cost, so if u didnt sign up for this you shouldnt be telling people where the moneys going or even that they have all are money already, just putting that out there
Quoting for reference....
I think you'll be changing your tone if you never see your $100 deposit again....
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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I think you guys should read, I believe he is saying that he never payed the 100 dollars because until rebel had enough interest and people on the list, they would not take the money. Therefore, nobody is out 100 bucks becuase Rebel never collected becuase lack of support. I believe that is what he is saying. If I am wrong hopefully he will correct me, otherwise you guys are the newbs.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rippin07
I think you guys should read, I believe he is saying that he never payed the 100 dollars because until rebel had enough interest and people on the list, they would not take the money. Therefore, nobody is out 100 bucks becuase Rebel never collected becuase lack of support. I believe that is what he is saying. If I am wrong hopefully he will correct me, otherwise you guys are the newbs.
u are 100% correct that is what I was saying
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rippin07
I think you guys should read, I believe he is saying that he never payed the 100 dollars because until rebel had enough interest and people on the list, they would not take the money. Therefore, nobody is out 100 bucks becuase Rebel never collected becuase lack of support. I believe that is what he is saying. If I am wrong hopefully he will correct me, otherwise you guys are the newbs.
The following post does not refer to any member in particular...

Originally Posted by Omega_5
As much as I like you guys.... I have to say this....
There was no demand because of things like this. If you promise a product and not deliver, people get upset and don't want to commit to future development.

There are 3 options here;
If you refunded; the cash to the investors, post it up, and we're all happy.
If you didn't refund it; do so now, post it up, and we're all happy.... OR... get started on a product.
.... I'm pretty sure that there are people on the following list that did send money... therefore the above post is 100% valid.

Originally Posted by Darkmanx
They needed 1500 for the rent and they got 1400

1. Rebel
2. lewisb13
3. burntorange
4. JR Racing
5. Shaun927
6. ls1fbody
7. infernica
8. Gabi
9. paul1588
10. AcesNEights
11. nuttzzy
12. Altiery54
13. bolus
14. victory_red_SS (for his DD )
The bottom line is... we're been fucked over by enough vendors lately...
If something is going sour, we have the right to address it.
Just because ONE person says they didn't lose out, doesn't mean that others did.

And as I posted earlier... if indeed all financials are cleared up.... all is well. All it takes is ONE post to let everyone know. Not a hard thing to do.

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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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easy people.

First off we didn't take a single cent from anyone for this project yet as we wanted to see the demand. Anyone who messaged us for a payment was told to wait for more people to sign up.

We are currently working on other projects but will come back to this in January. I think the best way will be to do it ourselves and spit out the numbers.

But for now, sit back, put $100 in your sock drawer and we will come out with some numbers by early spring. Anyone who was on the original list will get some sort of bonus.

Just a side note, did anyone actually build a new one of these with some results? I know some were at it.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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air to air rebel. do it
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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The only manifolds out there for the most part are just figments of imagination, nothing has been shown, nothing has been proven, nothing has been tested and, it is a great big secret. I am tired of it and think it is all bull **** cluttering up the site. I am interested in an intake manifold and look forward to your development when it happens Rebel.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Eng@RebelAutoWorxs
easy people.

First off we didn't take a single cent from anyone for this project yet as we wanted to see the demand. Anyone who messaged us for a payment was told to wait for more people to sign up.

We are currently working on other projects but will come back to this in January. I think the best way will be to do it ourselves and spit out the numbers.

But for now, sit back, put $100 in your sock drawer and we will come out with some numbers by early spring. Anyone who was on the original list will get some sort of bonus.

Just a side note, did anyone actually build a new one of these with some results? I know some were at it.
yep its been done for a bit....
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Eng@RebelAutoWorxs
easy people.

First off we didn't take a single cent from anyone for this project yet as we wanted to see the demand. Anyone who messaged us for a payment was told to wait for more people to sign up.

We are currently working on other projects but will come back to this in January. I think the best way will be to do it ourselves and spit out the numbers.

But for now, sit back, put $100 in your sock drawer and we will come out with some numbers by early spring. Anyone who was on the original list will get some sort of bonus.

Just a side note, did anyone actually build a new one of these with some results? I know some were at it.
Exactly why I never signed up. Rebel does it again.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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**** with everyone's attitude on this site towards rebel, after the twinscrew, I am surprised they are even thinking about making aftermarket parts for lsj's.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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i still would like to see what rebel comes up with. modifications have been made, but nothing like this.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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**** with everyone's attitude on this site towards rebel, after the twinscrew, I am surprised they are even thinking about making aftermarket parts for lsj's.
they did it to themselves.....
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Rippin07
The only manifolds out there for the most part are just figments of imagination, nothing has been shown, nothing has been proven, nothing has been tested and, it is a great big secret. I am tired of it and think it is all bull **** cluttering up the site. I am interested in an intake manifold and look forward to your development when it happens Rebel.
.... Oh really...
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rippin07
The only manifolds out there for the most part are just figments of imagination, nothing has been shown, nothing has been proven, nothing has been tested and, it is a great big secret. I am tired of it and think it is all bull **** cluttering up the site. I am interested in an intake manifold and look forward to your development when it happens Rebel.
you're an idiot. I know of at least 4 different manifolds that people have made right now.

most of them are modified stock manifolds, but they all work far better than the stocker.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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**** with everyone's attitude on this site towards rebel, after the twinscrew, I am surprised they are even thinking about making aftermarket parts for lsj's.
Um...then they shouldn't be taking deposits for r&d and then saying "well...we're going to delay". Isn't the whole point of the deposits to get money to do the work.

EPIC FAIL 2.0

Can't someone just copycat the hahn turbo manifold cut the top chamber and trim the runners a bit add a friggin box with room (I guess welded sealtight tubes) for the laminovas without the bottleneck and call it a day. It really SHOULDN'T be that hard. Isn't the hahn one made of sheet metal (not the runners)?
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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They didn't actually take any deposits. How is it that this keeps eluding people?
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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air to air rebel. do it
For an LSJ? That would be pointless.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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For an LSJ? That would be pointless.
It actually works great.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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For an LSJ? That would be pointless.
please explain...
saying something is pointless and not explaining means you have no idea what the hell you are talking about
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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It actually works great.
What? Air to air intercooler or manifold? If you remove the cores from the manifold then you don't need the i/c system at all. But how would the manifold be cooled? With an air to air intercooler? How would that even work? Forced air (ram air) or using the factory vac? You could probably make it work but the temps wouldn't be lower than the stock i/c system.

Air to Air intercooler on a supercharged car that's NOT centrifugal makes no sense as an intake is pulling cooler air anyway...how would you route it? Directly to the T/B and put a filter on one end of the intercooler? Makes zero sense. Even with a centrifugal it's not entirely necessary because it's nowhere near the exhaust.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by theneelster
What? Air to air intercooler or manifold? If you remove the cores from the manifold then you don't need the i/c system at all. But how would the manifold be cooled? With an air to air intercooler? How would that even work? Forced air (ram air) or using the factory vac? You could probably make it work but the temps wouldn't be lower than the stock i/c system.

Air to Air intercooler on a supercharged car that's NOT centrifugal makes no sense as an intake is pulling cooler air anyway...how would you route it? Directly to the T/B and put a filter on one end of the intercooler? Makes zero sense. Even with a centrifugal it's not entirely necessary because it's nowhere near the exhaust.
maybe you should research and learn a little more before posting...

"Air to Air intercooler on a supercharged car that's NOT centrifugal makes no sense as an intake is pulling cooler air anyway"

so is all FI, but compressing/moving air heats it up.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by theneelster
What? Air to air intercooler or manifold? If you remove the cores from the manifold then you don't need the i/c system at all. But how would the manifold be cooled? With an air to air intercooler? How would that even work? Forced air (ram air) or using the factory vac? You could probably make it work but the temps wouldn't be lower than the stock i/c system.

Air to Air intercooler on a supercharged car that's NOT centrifugal makes no sense as an intake is pulling cooler air anyway...how would you route it? Directly to the T/B and put a filter on one end of the intercooler? Makes zero sense. Even with a centrifugal it's not entirely necessary because it's nowhere near the exhaust.
Think outside the box.... and outside the stock manifold.
Look up the Lotus Exige S... then you'll understand.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
Think outside the box.... and outside the stock manifold.
We ran "theneelster" off of RLFs a long time ago for comments like this. I always cringe when I see his screen name attached to a thread. And he is all over most of the threads in the LSJ Performance Tech forum on CSS....

For real!

Anyone who adds "the" to the front and "ster" to the end of an abbreviated part of his name should not be taken seriously...

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