Wow guy, read up on the theroy of FI and **** before posting any further stuff like this....

 

for stuff like this?

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/parts-66/wtb-jdm-stuff-121621/

 

Last time I checked you were the one who had a hissy fit about supercharger silencer holes.

"Ran off"...that's rich.

Please explain to the uninitiated how the brilliant adds and air to air intercooler to a lsj.

Now that I know my posting pisses you off I'll just do it more. Guess what...I'm not a big fan of you either.

I don't need to defend myself because I was looking for a hks mushroom filter or ram air conversion with an apollo filter. I paid 20 grand for the damn thing I'll do what I want.

 

I'm pretty sure I know of the one's you're speaking of but what has been proven? What makes them work better? (and I'm not saying this to be sarcastic, I really would like to know more about them) I don't think anyone was making any direct statements against you so why call someone "an idiot" ? I'm sure there's people that think you're an idiot now too.....

I know myself I'd like to see something developed in this department even if it's someones modified stocker to start with. I've just never really seen an in depth detail about any of these modified ones, or even just the ported ones to give me any reason to go out and do this myself. I've seen a LOT of people post about modifying them, doing this, doing that. But I'd just like to come on and see a post about something completed from start to finish and see results. I mean real results not just... "it feels great and my boost increased/decreased". If you don't want to share what you have with the community that's fine and I don't blame you but an unbiased accurate test and trial of a part isn't out of the question I don't think. And if you don't want to share, shut up about how you have this great part but you're going to keep it a secret and everyone in great suspense hoping we will beg you to tell us what you've done..... we don't care that much, or at least I don't.

Personally i'd rather come on and show something completed from start to finish and some results (I know easier said than done) because I think it would avoid 33 pages in a thread of people fighting about nothing.

 

ima stay neutral in this, but i gotta lugh at neelster's post...

 

in my opinion i wouldnt make **** for an lsj car EVER...cobalt owners have proved over and over again that they are all talk...the tvs...the 6 speed...everytime a company sticks there neck out and develops something and looks for interest everyone wants one until it comes time to pay...harrop has sold a hand full of tvs's when everyone on this board was ready to buy right then and there...its sad really...u guys complain about aftermarket support but u do it to urself.

 

do a search and you'll see all the info. I've repeatedly posts the gains of my single pass, and omega has posted the gains of his new setup also.

so true. That's why most of the stuff I'm gonna do is going to be custom. There are some things I think companies just aren't going to make.

 

got a link to omegas stuff? ive run into some snags in my air to air and wanted to pick his brain a bit

 

Yup.

<shakes head in disbelief>

 

To your first part.... you want results...
Well... what would you call results?
I call 'results' HPT logs. Others call dyno numbers 'results'. Both have their flaws.

To the second part... some people keep their results quiet due to the fact that they spend over a hundred hours designing something... putting a lot of time and effort into it.... and giving the design away for free isn't exactly in their best interest. As a guy who likes to do a lot of business on the side... you should know this, and understand it.

 

I have no problem with that at all and don't blame you one bit if you don't want to share. Personally if I don't want to share something I don't feel the need to post over and over that I have something that works great but I'm not going to give away any details, seems pointless but again that's just me. Maybe you really should consider selling your design if any of the vendors around here are interested?

I haven't seen any HPT logs from your setup Omega, I'll have to see if I can find it and while that's not exactly the data I'd be looking for when deciding to upgrade manifolds it's better than nothing. I don't see a problem with a before and after dyno but obviously if you're not going to be selling these things I can see why you wouldn't go through the effort there.

Well.... I can't find any posts Omega, got a linky for me?

 

Originally... I had no intention of selling it (except maybe in 'one-offs')... but recently I was approached by a few vendors about buying a large quantity... it's possible I may go with that. The biggest thing is that I don't want to compete directly with a vendor, if they are going to put the time into building a full scale production model.

About the talk... I simply feel that the misconceptions around this piece should be cleared up. People are talking about how a new IM will not do any good... I obviously know otherwise... so why not clear that up? Besides the basic facts, though, I'd like to keep the basic design under wraps until I finish the work on my prototype.
After said testing, though, I'll be more than willing to post up logs, pictures, flow data, and maybe even a dyno run (if I feel like forking the cash).
As always... the set back is time. between work, and trying to unpack (still not done), it's hard to find time to even think about working on it.

Of what?

 

im not reading 33 pages of this ****. is it getting made or not lol

 

maybe hahahahaha

 

ask someone with the twinscrew swap...........damn i can't believe i just typed that.

 

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... I see...

There is a thread somewhere where I mentioned the results of the pre-test
Less latency, more response, linear cooling WRT ambient.
The addition of runners helped the low and mid-range.

I'm sure the initial results will be different from the final tests, though.... the unit will be slightly refined, as well as the fact that I'll be using a more dialed in tune (instead of simply dialing the MAF, and pulling a bit of timing for safety).

 

well i hope the results are good and you decide to make a large amount to sell to a vendor.

 

Not trying to be critical of you at all so I don't mean to come across that way. I just really want to get something taken care of with the IM as after I'm done with the head swap I'm going to want to tackle this and the exhaust. Im really hoping I don't have to try to do a ton of fabrication work like you did to get this done so it'd be great to see a proven production piece or even what you've come up with.

 

... Your a local-ish... so I'm sure I could make one to suit your build.
Theoretically, from the basic design, I don't have to change much to modify how the IM makes power.

 

Well, seeing as Ralli is making this personal get the ban stick out becuase he is a self glorified ******* who feels bashing vendors and anyone who has an opinion different than his is an idiot.
FACT: No numbers have been posted on any intake manifold.
FACT: No actual pictures have been shown to prove a design exists, and any idiot can whip up a CAD drawing.
FACT: Every time someone tries something with an intake, they are slammed for what they call results because no one posts real logs, and even then bitching about what kind of dyno was used etc etc etc.
FACT: Not a single thread about Omegas intake posts real numbers, only claims.

This in no way is bash against anyone personally, except Ralli, who is actually doing work to develop an Intake manifold, it is a bash against anyone coming on here making claims and not backing them up with any kind of real proof.
So , go jump off a bridge.

 

s/c there old news its all about the turbo now let it go

 

You offering GSS's dyno for free?
Cause I refuse to spend money to get the cry babies any 'numbers' until I'm finished. And even then... the fact that I'd have to drive in to S'toon just to do it, is almost not worth it.

BTW... you saw STS2/SS's designs as well... so there you go... another design besides mine...

 

and he showed numbers, but no logs cause his tuner for some reason didnt send them

o and we have over 50 witnesses at the dyno day at smg to prove its different, it works, and it made power.

 

I would just like to see some further development and some for sale.