pressure drop across an IC.

common place to have happen.

with this piece using a lamnova style cooling stack, and the fact that its an intercooler the PD will remain there, however i see what your saying about thinking it'll go the other way.

interesting indeed, i'll stick with the drop in pressure mind set as that is what i've seen happen all the time, every time, even as people swap out IC's.

in both the A/A world and A/W.

 

yes...ive seen your's and boosted's flawed physics.... lets see it work again lol

 

im more curious what kind of cores we are using for this, effeciency is my friend.

 

Wow... lots of new possibilities for the Cobalt as of late... hope they all pan out. Subscribed.

 

It's not like that... it's the pre-to-post cooler idea.
Kind of like the concept with boost loss across an intercooler.

Maybe I'm having an off day (hung over), but check out the image.



In the end it doesn't really matter, as long as it flows more.


Why are you posting? Your so effin dumb when it comes to this stuff that we should send you back to pre-school.
GTFO!

 

Remember, PSI is made inside the manifold. There is ZERO pressure "before it hits the manifold" not 18. Roots style superchargers only move air, they do not compress it. Now, if it were a centrifugal (i.e. vortech) then PSI is built inside the blower. Our eaton does not pressurize any air, it merely moves it. Dont forget, for each revolution of the blower you can only move so much air, I dont care if you hook an air compressor up to the inlet of the M62 with 2000psi, youll still only move the same volume of air as you did without anything hooked up.

 

because you still dont think rising cfm in "said" container means psi drop....

which was stated a zillion times in our last argument and u carry it over to this thread STILL thinking your right.

i think this was almost verbatum of what was said with the whole SC post

 

I think he's referring to the same thing I am, but got his words mixed up.... 18psi before it hits the intercooler (in the manifold), and 12.5 after the cooler (in the manifold).

Your retarded...

Do us all a favor... read THIS before trying to post again.

 

yes sir!

no internal compression ratio.

 

your both wrong, im right

 

Dude i will buy anyone this book if you can state 1 thing i am wrong about in this thread o r the SC one (not taking things out of context)....

until then keep crying for em, im enjoying it.

 

Quit high jacking the thread.

If you want to call me out... make a thread, and PM me the link.

And for the record... your wrong about this...

 

qft because he typed it

tommorow...

i leave now so my entertainment has run dry

btw srry for jack op.... let us know the intercooler technology your using.

 

What ever makes you think your pee-pee is big...

 

i definitely see what your getting at here, most def.

however i look at it like this.

one, the blower isnt going to be moving any more air (fractional amounts but thats it) due to its design, the change is the fact that it wont get bottled up at the cores, it'll flow better across them and into the head.

with the head having a larger flow capacity then the stock intake manifold, the pressure that your thinking of would just get eat'in up by the head and turned into power.

thats the short version here.

 

That's what I mean by it could go either way.
It solely depends on how well the head and cams flow on said motor it is installed on.

 

i just re-read the core material, i wouldnt use copper....although it is a better conductor aluminum is a better dissapation material. However i dont know the technology in question here.

 

i get ya man, i'm semi-agreeing with ya here.

i say its nice that **** like this is finally coming to premonition.

its only taken 3 years.

 

I was hoping I'd be the first to happen... unfortunately my suppliers are a bit slow.

Good job for Rebel though.

 

well heres my .02

im interested in this, but at the same time unsure. Will this be doing nothing more than swaping one evil for another? While the laminova cores dont flow as well as other styles of air-water intercoolers, they are highly efficient when it comes to actually cooling the air. So are you mearly swaping efficiency for flow rate?

 

No.
We are going to a higher flow rate, and a higher cooling rate. I'm going to assume that the trade off will be the larger size, as the Behr bricks are larger than the laminova's.

 

ooo i like this post.... your actually right. Unless this technology is defying some laws i dont know about. eg: conductive copper material under high convection = wtf would i bother? Just wondering how these work under our FI engines.

i dont understand how having a bigger block of hot water vs small straws is going to change the dynamic. Unless this is some sort of counter flow design.

 

I think I'm still gonna wait. There is lots of good info in this thread.

A certain 2 members are 2 days from having their modified stock intake manifold done. It will flow more air and cool better than the stock manifold. They will begin testing soon and then in a few weeks it will be available to the public. So I just want to see which one gives the better gains and the cost. I know the estimated price of theirs, and it should be worth it depending on the gains.

 

Going along with the straws analogy....

Think of the laminovas as a bunch of thin, short straws. The air filters down into the straws, passes though, and rapidly cools.

The bricks, are like thick, long straws. The air has less resistance due to the larger area... but must remain in the tubes longer to cool the same amount.

Hence... our trade off is size.


3...
But a week or so here.... (hopefully)

 

I didn't realize you were working on it with them. Props to you too then.