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1) Umm You have mistaken me for someone else I didnt say you was swinging on noones nut! Its the other guys came in here saying we swinging on James nuts because we backing him up. Read again.
2) Flat out destruction as you said, to me seems like you was saying that he tuned the car for str8t up destruction....thats how it came across to me as I read it hence it quoted it. Thats why I was like lets see the deliberate tune. Someone said no one said it was deliberate. I quoted to what seems to me as you stating it was deliberate. You commnunicated something and thats how interpet it. Communications 101.
3) I have no qualms with you. Personally I think you did a good job on Darts car and another in here talked highly of your tune. I respect you as a tuner. I even said earlier that if one of the guys who you tuned backs you up if something like this happened and your name came up, nothing would be wrong with them backing you up and a matter of fact they should.
4) You talking about stupidity o_O, you me called stupid cause of???????? If you read the posts and followed it carefully and connect the dam dots since your the so smart one you would have seen where I is going with it; why I had went back 5 pages to quote (see #2). But apparently you somehow got butt hurt, came out swinging and tried to say something witty??...I dont know.. maybe clever. "Go sit in timeout and go think about it" LoL!! GTFOOH. That **** is hilarious.... I dont get riled up like some of these "youngins" in here and def dont got the time to stoop to your level that you trying to be at the moment. Im way above that. Like you say, come at me with some worth while **** cause your **** was way less worth while than mine was. I will say though just because you can tune a car dont make you any smarter than me or even half the folks on this forum.
And dont act like you not a fearsome leader for some people. You know you have a fan club as well so dont trip. If you didnt you wouldnt have repeat customers or people praising your tune. brand loyalty=fan club. Take pride in that **** like you customers take pride in being tuned by you.
2) Flat out destruction as you said, to me seems like you was saying that he tuned the car for str8t up destruction....thats how it came across to me as I read it hence it quoted it. Thats why I was like lets see the deliberate tune. Someone said no one said it was deliberate. I quoted to what seems to me as you stating it was deliberate. You commnunicated something and thats how interpet it. Communications 101.
3) I have no qualms with you. Personally I think you did a good job on Darts car and another in here talked highly of your tune. I respect you as a tuner. I even said earlier that if one of the guys who you tuned backs you up if something like this happened and your name came up, nothing would be wrong with them backing you up and a matter of fact they should.
4) You talking about stupidity o_O, you me called stupid cause of???????? If you read the posts and followed it carefully and connect the dam dots since your the so smart one you would have seen where I is going with it; why I had went back 5 pages to quote (see #2). But apparently you somehow got butt hurt, came out swinging and tried to say something witty??...I dont know.. maybe clever. "Go sit in timeout and go think about it" LoL!! GTFOOH. That **** is hilarious.... I dont get riled up like some of these "youngins" in here and def dont got the time to stoop to your level that you trying to be at the moment. Im way above that. Like you say, come at me with some worth while **** cause your **** was way less worth while than mine was. I will say though just because you can tune a car dont make you any smarter than me or even half the folks on this forum.
And dont act like you not a fearsome leader for some people. You know you have a fan club as well so dont trip. If you didnt you wouldnt have repeat customers or people praising your tune. brand loyalty=fan club. Take pride in that **** like you customers take pride in being tuned by you.
Originally Posted by mysteryshit
Originally Posted by Area47
YOU have to say when it's enough. this is two cars that are publicly known under your hands that have blown up. YOU have to make the judgement call. YOU control the out come of the car. YOU set the playing field for the life of the motor. not the driver.
"its what the customer wants". no, it's not. you have to draw the line. i get it, things happen out of the control of others. blaming the data logger for not showing "kr" is horse ****. pull a spark plug and look at it.
i get it, **** happens. this however, was flat out destruction.
Oh yeah it was an accidental shitty aggressive tune. My bad
. Hmmm semen and eyes.hmm good quality post. You definitely raised the bar of awesomeness on CSS.net. 
lol
YOU have to say when it's enough. this is two cars that are publicly known under your hands that have blown up. YOU have to make the judgement call. YOU control the out come of the car. YOU set the playing field for the life of the motor. not the driver.
"its what the customer wants". no, it's not. you have to draw the line. i get it, things happen out of the control of others. blaming the data logger for not showing "kr" is horse ****. pull a spark plug and look at it.
i get it, **** happens. this however, was flat out destruction.
Oh yeah it was an accidental shitty aggressive tune. My bad
. Hmmm semen and eyes.hmm good quality post. You definitely raised the bar of awesomeness on CSS.net. lolnone.
you went back 5 pages to quote this for what reason? go sit in time out and think about your own personal stupidity. come at me with some worth while ****, or gtfo.
the toyota "stuck gas pedal" was caused by floor mats.
some of us have posted the point that needs to be understood. 99% of you have glazed over puppy dog eyes because your fearless leader is under attack. boo hoo.
Bluelightening, if I were you, I would find a dyno in Windypeg and the talk to Area47 and then if he agrees, buy an advance purchase airline ticket kc/windypeg/kc for cheep and get Area in to toon ur car. That sort of what I did for my cars. Worked very well.
Flatgod is closer and a good man.
SS Kev is farther away and a good man.
I have never blown up an engine of mine on an Area 47 or SSkev tune. 100% all failures were down to mechanical fault or oil starvation at the race track. All mine. lol
I have never had a customer car in my care blow up on a tune . Race track or street, and the race cars are fast, and not just Cobalts. LS7 etc.
Flatgod is closer and a good man.
SS Kev is farther away and a good man.
I have never blown up an engine of mine on an Area 47 or SSkev tune. 100% all failures were down to mechanical fault or oil starvation at the race track. All mine. lol
I have never had a customer car in my care blow up on a tune . Race track or street, and the race cars are fast, and not just Cobalts. LS7 etc.
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Wipe the semen out of your eyes and read again.
No one EVER said deliberately.
And James, you're saying that there was not at all a little voice in your head telling you this was a bad
Idea? That if this kid got on it hard (which it seems you had a hunch) that it would come back on you?
Or did you just tell that voice to stfu gtfo I'm not arguing facts like you do every other person that disagrees with you..,
No one EVER said deliberately.
And James, you're saying that there was not at all a little voice in your head telling you this was a bad
Idea? That if this kid got on it hard (which it seems you had a hunch) that it would come back on you?
Or did you just tell that voice to stfu gtfo I'm not arguing facts like you do every other person that disagrees with you..,
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Originally Posted by boostedpattywagon
Wipe the semen out of your eyes and read again.
No one EVER said deliberately.
And James, you're saying that there was not at all a little voice in your head telling you this was a bad
Idea? That if this kid got on it hard (which it seems you had a hunch) that it would come back on you?
Or did you just tell that voice to stfu gtfo I'm not arguing facts like you do every other person that disagrees with you..,
Originally Posted by Area47
YOU have to say when it's enough. this is two cars that are publicly known under your hands that have blown up. YOU have to make the judgement call. YOU control the out come of the car. YOU set the playing field for the life of the motor. not the driver.
"its what the customer wants". no, it's not. you have to draw the line. i get it, things happen out of the control of others. blaming the data logger for not showing "kr" is horse ****. pull a spark plug and look at it.
i get it, **** happens. this however, was flat out destruction( <----I thought that meant deliberate destruction) .
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Oh yeah it was an accidental shitty aggressive tune. My bad . Hmmm semen and eyes.hmm good quality post. You definitely raised the bar of awesomeness on CSS.net. lol
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I'll just throw my opinion in here along with all the others.
If I was selling something with my name on it (tune, parts, anything) I would make damn sure it was good. Of course I cant control what others may do later but if i had a feeling they were likely to beat the crap out of it i may not go there. If it goes bad there are people who say I pushed it too far and it broke and people who said he sold me something and it broke. Regardless of the reason for the failure there are a lot more of the 2nd group. People don't take responsiblity for their actions. If someone wanted to push it beyond what I felt was safe I'd walk away. Loss of a sale is better than a bad rep.
James tuned my car about 30k miles ago. Its not an aggressive tune and that's not what I was looking for. I just wanted a little more power without having to immediately run out and fix stuff right away. He asked what I wanted. Told me what he would do. Answered my questions. Told me a few other people he tuned who I talked too. If I could go back and do it all again I'd have no concern having him tune it again.
If I was selling something with my name on it (tune, parts, anything) I would make damn sure it was good. Of course I cant control what others may do later but if i had a feeling they were likely to beat the crap out of it i may not go there. If it goes bad there are people who say I pushed it too far and it broke and people who said he sold me something and it broke. Regardless of the reason for the failure there are a lot more of the 2nd group. People don't take responsiblity for their actions. If someone wanted to push it beyond what I felt was safe I'd walk away. Loss of a sale is better than a bad rep.
James tuned my car about 30k miles ago. Its not an aggressive tune and that's not what I was looking for. I just wanted a little more power without having to immediately run out and fix stuff right away. He asked what I wanted. Told me what he would do. Answered my questions. Told me a few other people he tuned who I talked too. If I could go back and do it all again I'd have no concern having him tune it again.
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It was a reply to pattywagon not to you Area. I just quoted what you said when I thought you meant deliberate destruction to point it out to him that it was said.
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Originally Posted by boostedpattywagon
Wipe the semen out of your eyes and read again.
No one EVER said deliberately.
And James, you're saying that there was not at all a little voice in your head telling you this was a bad
Idea? That if this kid got on it hard (which it seems you had a hunch) that it would come back on you?
Or did you just tell that voice to stfu gtfo I'm not arguing facts like you do every other person that disagrees with you..,
Originally Posted by Area47
YOU have to say when it's enough. this is two cars that are publicly known under your hands that have blown up. YOU have to make the judgement call. YOU control the out come of the car. YOU set the playing field for the life of the motor. not the driver.
"its what the customer wants". no, it's not. you have to draw the line. i get it, things happen out of the control of others. blaming the data logger for not showing "kr" is horse ****. pull a spark plug and look at it.
i get it, **** happens. this however, was flat out destruction( <----I thought that meant deliberate destruction) .
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Oh yeah it was an accidental shitty aggressive tune. My bad . Hmmm semen and eyes.hmm good quality post. You definitely raised the bar of awesomeness on CSS.net. lol
[Quote:
Originally Posted by boostedpattywagon
Wipe the semen out of your eyes and read again.
No one EVER said deliberately.
And James, you're saying that there was not at all a little voice in your head telling you this was a bad
Idea? That if this kid got on it hard (which it seems you had a hunch) that it would come back on you?
Or did you just tell that voice to stfu gtfo I'm not arguing facts like you do every other person that disagrees with you..,
Originally Posted by Area47
YOU have to say when it's enough. this is two cars that are publicly known under your hands that have blown up. YOU have to make the judgement call. YOU control the out come of the car. YOU set the playing field for the life of the motor. not the driver.
"its what the customer wants". no, it's not. you have to draw the line. i get it, things happen out of the control of others. blaming the data logger for not showing "kr" is horse ****. pull a spark plug and look at it.
i get it, **** happens. this however, was flat out destruction( <----I thought that meant deliberate destruction) .
(|-----------------------------------------------reply to pattywagon-------------------------------|
Oh yeah it was an accidental shitty aggressive tune. My bad . Hmmm semen and eyes.hmm good quality post. You definitely raised the bar of awesomeness on CSS.net. lol
okies. carry on batman.
what i find fun is the very first lnf i tuned on 22psi, cracked off a 12.6 et on factory tires. what i find more fun. it's still running to this day. i want to say from 3k miles to almost 100k, if not more by now. this was before all of these magical lnf tuners came around.
that car has the **** beat out of it.
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point being, if the car is tuned correctly, it will have a much less chance of destruction regardless of the driver.
none of the cars i have done have have met the demise of internal failure. regardless of what the owner of the vehicle says he wants. i take control and say when it's enough.
none of the cars i have done have have met the demise of internal failure. regardless of what the owner of the vehicle says he wants. i take control and say when it's enough.
Car was tuned correctly. Not gonna say it again. Kinda pointless .. Only aggressive part was little to no ramp and 24/25lbs. Tune was fine, if the car had a responsible driver it would still be running.. End of story
I've seen stock cars blow up, lnfs/Lsj. Driver responsibility...
I've seen stock cars blow up, lnfs/Lsj. Driver responsibility...
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Car was tuned correctly. Not gonna say it again. Kinda pointless .. Only aggressive part was little to no ramp and 24/25lbs. Tune was fine, if the car had a responsible driver it would still be running.. End of story
I've seen stock cars blow up, lnfs/Lsj. Driver responsibility...
I've seen stock cars blow up, lnfs/Lsj. Driver responsibility...
exactly...
im not the best tuner but from wat i have read and seen is that the owner ran the car hard alot...its a ss y not.. but wen u run a engine hard there is alot that needs to be considered..
good clean oil, good spark plugs that r gapped correctly, good gas, clean air filter, clean air intake,
ive said this alot. my car sits alot. the times it isnt sitting is usualy racing. with that said i run a fairly aggressive tune that i spent hours on a dyno getting the spark maps mainly all knock free and that the car makes the most power it can throughout the rpm range. im constantly running oil and coolant samples to see wat the oil contains...wat i mean by that is i pull 3 oz of oil out of my engine and i have the lab at my work analyze it to see wat it contains..bearing material(rod, main, ext...) they also can pick up unspent fuel in the oil which if a certain amount is found will mean excessive detonation..thats if they dont pick up parts of the pistons.
this is all done at the micron level. the same thing can be done with the coolant system...and knowing that these blocks r porous i do find a very very very small amount of oil from time to time. not from a leak or anything...
this is all done at the microscopic level.
i run a zzp cai on my lsj...i clean my filter every 500 miles or so...i know some will say that the filter works better dirty.i know this...the idea here is to have the most air flow possible..
this is all things i do to take care of my car...i do this to try and catch any major failures...
i say that the owner didnt properly take care of his race car.
It amazing to me that this is still even a discussion, the kid beat his car like a hooker that owed him money and on top of it was putting in the wrong octane of gas, if this had been anyone elses tune the owner of the car would have been laughed off the forums for being a moron but because james tuned the car it is somehow james fault and not the kid. Some of u people need to wake the **** up and realize this witch hunt ur on wont change ****, james will stick having the backing of the people that understand whats going on and not just here to destroy and slander someone u dont like.