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astrocrep 11-03-2005 09:08 AM

Stage 3 Proof...
 
http://www.gmdelta.com/gallery/gallery.php?eid=516


WTF STAGE 3??? Take a Look at the Pictures on Page 8, 4th down on the left, read the pic!! 2.0L SC Stage III Ecotec Engine!

:cssNET:

-Rich

Josh_877 11-03-2005 09:19 AM

page 8? it only goes up to page 5...

Josh_877 11-03-2005 09:20 AM

ahhhh i see under "wednesday"

3fo893013L 11-03-2005 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by astrocrep
http://www.gmdelta.com/gallery/gallery.php?eid=516


WTF STAGE 3??? Take a Look at the Pictures on Page 8, 4th down on the left, read the pic!! 2.0L SC Stage III Ecotec Engine!

:cssNET:

-Rich

http://www.gmenthusiast.com/gallery/...y/IMG_6561.JPG

Word. But That would only mean maybe another 20hp on top of stage 2. Not sure what they did here...

Not sure why Stage 3 doesn't take you to 300HP, but damn that shot of N20 gives it some nuts by another 100 hp almost.

astrocrep 11-03-2005 09:23 AM

Thanks for linking in the pic!

-Rich

Chevypowered 11-03-2005 09:24 AM

I think this is the same as stage 2 + With the M62 Hybrid

astrocrep 11-03-2005 09:24 AM

Thats another 23hp on top of stage 2. The ss is gonna be like a bat out of hell with Stg3. Easily low 13s / high 12s w/ I/H/E

-Rich

astrocrep 11-03-2005 09:26 AM

Ohh SH!T... thats 264HP at 7000 RPMS!!!

p7x 11-03-2005 09:27 AM

YES!!!!!! but I thought that was stage 2 when the article came out. Im still confused but as long as something is called stage 3 Im happy. Not to mention that if stage 2 takes 0.7 secs off quarter mile time with 36 hp upgrade to 240 than another 0.5-0.7 can be taking off with hp to 264. I know it problay doesnt work that way but just imagine. SO F*%&ing excited!!!

astrocrep 11-03-2005 09:28 AM

They said stage 2 was a 3.0" pulley, maybe a stage 3 is a 2.8" with supporting mods like an intake and ecu recal?

-Rich

p7x 11-03-2005 09:29 AM

Just another thought, the hp #'s are low but if its good enough to wax a TT skyline I think it will be good enough for me.

Alex47 11-03-2005 11:02 AM

the stage 3 is nice but the stage 3 for the SRT-4 has 355HP with no NOS and the stage 2 is 280 HP

UtOhCop 11-03-2005 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by p7x
Just another thought, the hp #'s are low but if its good enough to wax a TT skyline I think it will be good enough for me.


Gonna need a lot more to wax a skyline

wesmanw02 11-03-2005 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Alex47
the stage 3 is nice but the stage 3 for the SRT-4 has 355HP with no NOS and the stage 2 is 280 HP

Umm no, the only way you get 355HP with the Stage 3 SRT-4 is if you run racing fuel. Meaning 100+ octane. Most people can't even buy racing fuel where they live, not to mention it would be much too expensive to cruise around running on racing gas - thats insanity - especially considering current fuel prices.

The real numbers for the Mopar Stage 3 kit are 310HP and 325ft/lbs torque. Now considering the Cobalt SS S/C makes about 40 more Flywheels HP than its rated stock, add that to the GM stage 3 kit, and you're at 304HP. Very close to the SRT-4 numbers.

Alex47 11-03-2005 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by wesmanw02
Umm no, the only way you get 355HP with the Stage 3 SRT-4 is if you run racing fuel. Meaning 100+ octane. Most people can't even buy racing fuel where they live, not to mention it would be much too expensive to cruise around running on racing gas - thats insanity - especially considering current fuel prices.

The real numbers for the Mopar Stage 3 kit are 310HP and 325ft/lbs torque. Now considering the Cobalt SS S/C makes about 40 more Flywheels HP than its rated stock, add that to the GM stage 3 kit, and you're at 304HP. Very close to the SRT-4 numbers.

MOPAR asks that you use 100 octane but it will work fine with 94 octane from Sunoco or with water/alc injection u can run on HOM all day.

BTW the SRT is rated at 230 HP and 250 TQ at the fly wheel but it does that to the wheels stock so mopar is under rated to?

p7x 11-03-2005 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by UtOhCop
Gonna need a lot more to wax a skyline

Read the the time attack article the stage II or III cobalt beat the TT skyline.

WAXING

rallyracer 11-03-2005 12:03 PM

I just want to make mine fast.

OniMirage 11-03-2005 12:07 PM

exciting news ... at what stage does the srt-4 change the turbo? see we are all talking about our numbers not being great for upgrades BUT the whole time no upgrade has been done to change the supecharger, all the hp is coming from small but effective upgrades ... to get lots o power from the srt-4 don't you have to remove the stock turbo and add a bigger one just to increase it by a noticable margine? I think some of us are being a bit too hard on the ss considering that we will still be dealing with a stock sc and engine after these upgrades are completed and installed (not sure if the sc on stage 3 is changed)

Co27SSKid 11-03-2005 12:10 PM

i was dead asleep when i got the text from my bro about stage 3... i might as well have just done coke cuz i was up and goin 100mph on this comp. Stage 3 sounds ok, but the SRT-4 is still more power, and i have to agree with the above post that they are under rated. so, we'll still not be as fast. (srt-4 is lighter also) :cssNET:

Co27SSKid 11-03-2005 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by OniMirage
exciting news ... at what stage does the srt-4 change the turbo? see we are all talking about our numbers not being great for upgrades BUT the whole time no upgrade has been done to change the supecharger, all the hp is coming from small but effective upgrades ... to get lots o power from the srt-4 don't you have to remove the stock turbo and add a bigger one just to increase it by a noticable margine? I think some of us are being a bit too hard on the ss considering that we will still be dealing with a stock sc and engine after these upgrades are completed and installed (not sure if the sc on stage 3 is changed)


I think the one thats on the SS is made for 2.0-2.5 or sumin like that. So i don't belive we can go any bigger n e way.... correct me if i'm worng?


p.s can some 1 tell me how to start a thred? tankx

Alex47 11-03-2005 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by OniMirage
exciting news ... at what stage does the srt-4 change the turbo? see we are all talking about our numbers not being great for upgrades BUT the whole time no upgrade has been done to change the supecharger, all the hp is coming from small but effective upgrades ... to get lots o power from the srt-4 don't you have to remove the stock turbo and add a bigger one just to increase it by a noticable margine? I think some of us are being a bit too hard on the ss considering that we will still be dealing with a stock sc and engine after these upgrades are completed and installed (not sure if the sc on stage 3 is changed)

with stage 3 you have to put a bugger turbo unit on and it also comes wit a larger fuel pump and fuel rale.

stock turbo on the SRT is small the most you can get out of it is 300-310HP to the wheels if u want more u need a bigger turbo.

OniMirage 11-03-2005 12:18 PM

to make a new thread navigate to the desired forum section then click new thread

DJNateGnau 11-03-2005 12:30 PM

Thread tools! then new thread.

DJNateGnau 11-03-2005 12:36 PM

I knew there would be a Stage III. I knew it I knew it I knew it!

Co27SSKid 11-03-2005 01:39 PM

thnakx guys about the forum :cssNET:

I'm glad theres a stage 3, cuz i was getting tired of having my fingers crossed!


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