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Old 07-07-2007, 11:48 AM
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newb ? here why do are cars trap so high compared to other cars?
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Lack of traction and a good launch. It's not that they trap higher, it's that the ET's are lower than they would be with better launch and better traction.
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fwd cars will always trap higher then any other form of drivetrain layout.
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Originally Posted by Altiery54
newb ? here why do are cars trap so high compared to other cars?
look at our trap speeds and 1/4 mile times..then look at your 60ft compared to a WRX or a GTO

fwd ftl drag racing
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E/T = Driver + Traction
Trap Speed = True indicator of a vehicle's power
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Old 07-07-2007, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
E/T = Driver + Traction
Trap Speed = True indicator of a vehicle's power
X2000!!!! Look at my best ET/Speed

14.16 @ 107.73
2.51 60'
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Old 07-07-2007, 11:37 PM
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so would this be why are cars are good from a roll?
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indeed i find the best power from second (40mph) till 105-110(end of third)
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so would this be why are cars are good from a roll?
Yes
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indeed i find the best power from second (40mph) till 105-110(end of third)
Hmm... I usually did 50 (middle of second) to 150 (very end of fourth) rolls.... until the motor went bye bye
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Hmm... I usually did 50 (middle of second) to 150 (very end of fourth) rolls.... until the motor went bye bye
Yea cuz these cars definately do 150mph in 4th. Were you reving to 35k?
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Yea cuz these cars definately do 150mph in 4th. Were you reving to 35k?
Well with a 4.05 final gear ratio, .89 4th gear ratio, 215/45/18's 150mph would be 7090ish.
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Well with a 4.05 final gear ratio, .89 4th gear ratio, 215/45/18's 150mph would be 7090ish.
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you would race people up till 150?? wow...
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
E/T = Driver + Traction
Trap Speed = True indicator of a vehicle's power


So whats up with your car now Blown?
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Originally Posted by blueta
Well with a 4.05 final gear ratio, .89 4th gear ratio, 215/45/18's 150mph would be 7090ish.
Time to get some shorter tires. Stupid high gearing FTL.
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not if you know how to use the gearing!
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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
Time to get some shorter tires. Stupid high gearing FTL.
not exactly.

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Yea, our 60 times suck, i did a 13.8 at 104 last month then blew my tranny
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Originally Posted by tityrous
hahahaahh
I hope you don't think I was trying to be funny or make that up. Proof is in the math

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Time to get some shorter tires. Stupid high gearing FTL.
I'm not all into the 4th gear being an overdrive either, but it's not too bad.
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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
Time to get some shorter tires. Stupid high gearing FTL.
Might have a solution for us coming up in the next few months. Going to "attempt" swapping in the 9-3's 3.53 final drive ratio.
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Hmm... I usually did 50 (middle of second) to 150 (very end of fourth) rolls.... until the motor went bye bye
I'm sorry but that's Bs.

Can cobalts even DO 150? And I mean without a rocket attached to the ass.

I have several friends with similar HP/weight cars and after 100MPH the speedo CRAWLS like you're a fat kid running up hill to get to a sandwich. .. I just can't see this...

Seriously though, my cobra could maybe get to 160? 165?

Unless i see a video of a cobalt doing 150 REAL Mph (not indicated by speedo) then i'm callin' bs...
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Originally Posted by MustangThief
I'm sorry but that's Bs.

Can cobalts even DO 150? And I mean without a rocket attached to the ass.

I have several friends with similar HP/weight cars and after 100MPH the speedo CRAWLS like you're a fat kid running up hill to get to a sandwich. .. I just can't see this...

Seriously though, my cobra could maybe get to 160? 165?

Unless i see a video of a cobalt doing 150 REAL Mph (not indicated by speedo) then i'm callin' bs...
You're right. Various mags reported that stock, our SS/SC's will only do in the low 140's.

Here's one of them ...

Car and Driver
The Quickest Cars of 2007: $20,000 to $25,000
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ercharged.html

TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 6.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 15.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 32.3 sec
¼-mile: 14.6 sec @99 mph
Top speed (drag limited): 141 mph
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.86 g
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We're not talking about stock SS here. We're talking S2+
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
We're not talking about stock SS here. We're talking S2+
and?

Still not gonna give it enough brute force to get to 150.

You would have to change the aerodynamics of the vehicle to achieve that, you can add all the stages you want, not gonna change. You can even do a stage 2 with purple gumdrops but you still won't hit 150.
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