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DarkChild May 16, 2013 10:40 PM

ZZP Big H/E question
 
Seems like the people at ZZP don't like to reply to their PM's. Can you hook up an option B to the stock replacement ZZP H/E? I don't see a nozzle input for it. I have money to purchase some items from them and they aren't replying... I would like an answer to my question before I just buy one.

mrbelvedere May 16, 2013 10:53 PM

email them directly

Bluelightning May 16, 2013 10:58 PM

It does not come with a fitting for an option b. You will have to weld one in if you want one.

07MetallicSC May 16, 2013 11:29 PM

Use stocker.

Tjolley May 16, 2013 11:37 PM

U dont need a option b with the stealth u fill the HE directly

And the stocker works fine.
Stocker option b good to go

DarkChild May 17, 2013 07:43 AM

Awesome. That's some extra cash in my hands then. I will just sell my Option B. It's not like I'm trying to call them out or anything but when I wait for days without a reply it seems like I am being ignored and not taken seriously. I think calling them and leaving a message is also a waste of my time because I have done that a few times and never been called back. ZZP, what's going on? I want to buy some stuff from you but would have liked more information so that I could do so.

\rant.

Thank you everyone. This thread can be closed now.

07MetallicSC May 17, 2013 07:46 AM

Id keep option b if I were you, it constantly bleeds the system.

Staged07SS May 17, 2013 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC (Post 7043088)
Id keep option b if I were you, it constantly bleeds the system.

This.

Talk to Vander nars. He had an Opt. B bung welded to his stealth HE.

mrbelvedere May 17, 2013 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by DarkChild (Post 7043086)
Awesome. That's some extra cash in my hands then. I will just sell my Option B. It's not like I'm trying to call them out or anything but when I wait for days without a reply it seems like I am being ignored and not taken seriously. I think calling them and leaving a message is also a waste of my time because I have done that a few times and never been called back. ZZP, what's going on? I want to buy some stuff from you but would have liked more information so that I could do so.

\rant.

Thank you everyone. This thread can be closed now.

keep the option b its worth it and zzp should be able to put a bung on it for you

Tjolley May 17, 2013 09:08 AM

Im just wondering how u bleed air out of a system that wont have any air in it. Thats the whole reason for filling the heat exchanger directly.

Staged07SS May 17, 2013 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Tjolley (Post 7043156)
Im just wondering how u bleed air out of a system that wont have any air in it. Thats the whole reason for filling the heat exchanger directly.

A constant air bleed is best. Which is what Opt. B does for the system.

As per John Powell:

If you have laminova cores ,you have to keep air out of the cooling system. All engine cooling systems have a bleed line, running to a coolant reservoir (option B if you want to call it that). So you can have a radiator the size of the empire state building , if there is air in the coolant the laminova cores wont work effectively; the air is constantly entrained in the coolant in the LSJ Aftercooling system, its not something you can bleed out once and forget..

Tjolley May 17, 2013 09:30 AM

Ok thats cuz u dont fill the HE directly.

So that means the entire auto industry WAS setting up there coolant systems wrong with a direct fill radiator.
I gone round and round on this for years with the heat exchanger style cooling systems here at CAT. We decided to go with a direct fill radiator.

mrbelvedere May 17, 2013 09:46 AM

most automotive setups run an option b line aka steam pipe line to constantly bleed the air from the cooling system

Tjolley May 17, 2013 09:50 AM

Now they do i understand that. Im talking before that

Vander Nars May 17, 2013 09:56 AM

In my opinion its a great unit and there is no opt B port so you will have to either request zzp add it for you or have it added at your cost.

mrbelvedere May 17, 2013 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Tjolley (Post 7043235)
Now they do i understand that. Im talking before that

they ran a overfill hose to a tank basicly like an option b if the system needed coolant it drew it from the tank if it had an over press it shoved it to the tank the old coolant systems at times were a bitch to bleed at other times not a bitch

DarkChild May 18, 2013 02:09 PM

I will try and get a hold of them one more time and see if they can weld a bung into it. I am not happy with the service right now. Their product is great though.

YelCal7 May 18, 2013 05:09 PM

Email Turbo Tim, He usually email back to you on the next day.

sternerG85SC May 19, 2013 11:34 AM

I run ZZP's stealth H/E with their single pass. i had zzp weld a fitting on for me for free. i just asked in the comment section. just make sure you flush the H/E out because mine had metal shavings inside the H/E. i ended up deleting my option B and selling it. i just fill the H/E cap. Got rid of alot of plumbing lol

Vander Nars May 19, 2013 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by sternerG85SC (Post 7044990)
I run ZZP's stealth H/E with their single pass. i had zzp weld a fitting on for me for free. i just asked in the comment section. just make sure you flush the H/E out because mine had metal shavings inside the H/E. i ended up deleting my option B and selling it. i just fill the H/E cap. Got rid of alot of plumbing lol

What is ur iat/iat2 like would love to see some data on there single pass i have been considering it but seems to be a lack of any data.

Tjolley May 19, 2013 05:05 PM

Exactly i knew the stelth didnt need it cuz u fill it directly.
The hole reason be hind the option b is to blead out air cuz most ppl cant get all the air out unless u have the tool like me to do it right..
Lets see the tool is like 40$ and a option b is 100$+

OttawaMark May 19, 2013 11:53 PM

ZZP is busy mining bitcoins.

mrbelvedere May 20, 2013 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Tjolley (Post 7045162)
Exactly i knew the stelth didnt need it cuz u fill it directly.
The hole reason be hind the option b is to blead out air cuz most ppl cant get all the air out unless u have the tool like me to do it right..
Lets see the tool is like 40$ and a option b is 100$+

you should still run the option b with the stealth the purpose of the option b is for the lam cores not the H.E. and pulling a vac on the system is a good way and the best way but not 100%

Staged07SS May 20, 2013 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by mrbelvedere (Post 7045867)
you should still run the option b with the stealth the purpose of the option b is for the lam cores not the H.E. and pulling a vac on the system is a good way and the best way but not 100%

This.

Opt. B is not a one time only bleed of the after cooling system.

07MetallicSC May 20, 2013 04:31 PM

^ what those two guys said. I have a feeling its like talking to a wall though.


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