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HyperMuffin Apr 4, 2010 05:53 PM

2.2L ZZP SC Questions
 
So I am planning on buying this kit in a month hopefully sooner. Other than the kit itself and a tune what else is needed to make sure everything runs great?

My first question. It says premium gas is required, what octane would you recommend? Also more of like a general car question but, I run 89 octane now (I think lol) and how should I go about using 91/93 octane whichever is better? Would I need to flush the entire system? Or is it safe to just add in the higher octane with the lower octane in still?

Which gauges are most helpful? Other than boost guage, which others would you reccomend?


Also, if you guys have any info you want to add, please do. Every bit of info helps.

mofofernando Apr 4, 2010 06:01 PM

run your tank down as low as possible and fill up with 93 if you have that near you before you do the install. get a wideband its a must have gauge not to sure on brand since i dont have one yet but ya youll need it so you know how lean or rich youre running

007CobaltLS Apr 4, 2010 06:23 PM

I would go with the AEM UEGO wideband for about $200. It's what I will be running...I plan to purchase this kit down the road towards the end of the year. I will also be getting a boost gauge and running the ZZP sedan dual gauage a-pillar pod.

So you really don't need much else...the kit, at least a wideband o2, a tune, and exhaust is a good idea as well.

I'd say to run the tank as low as possible as stated above, then just run 1 or 2 tanks of 91/93 before you install the SC setup and you'll be just fine. If there's a little 89 left it won't hurt, but you don't want to be running full on 89 when you go boosted.

06_ion2 Apr 4, 2010 06:51 PM

Change fuel filter before you tune.

HyperMuffin Apr 4, 2010 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by 06_ion2 (Post 4816028)
Change fuel filter before you tune.

How difficult is that and does it cost much?


Originally Posted by 007CobaltLS (Post 4815991)
I would go with the AEM UEGO wideband for about $200. It's what I will be running...I plan to purchase this kit down the road towards the end of the year. I will also be getting a boost gauge and running the ZZP sedan dual gauage a-pillar pod.

So you really don't need much else...the kit, at least a wideband o2, a tune, and exhaust is a good idea as well.

I'd say to run the tank as low as possible as stated above, then just run 1 or 2 tanks of 91/93 before you install the SC setup and you'll be just fine. If there's a little 89 left it won't hurt, but you don't want to be running full on 89 when you go boosted.

I already have an exhaust so that wont be needed. 200$ for a gauge, jesus christ lol. Is it needed if trifecta is doing the tuning? I might have to get a mechanical boost guage then to save some money haha.

06_ion2 Apr 4, 2010 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by HyperMuffin (Post 4816075)
How difficult is that and does it cost much?

Look it up, theres a "how to" somewhere on here.

mofofernando Apr 4, 2010 08:20 PM

dont go cheap if youre gonna boost your car. and yes you need it i dont think you can see your afr's with trifecta cause youre just uploading a tune to your pcm. i may be wrong though i dont know too much about trifecfta. either way like i said dont go cheap man cause youll end up spending more in the long run.

HyperMuffin Apr 4, 2010 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by mofofernando (Post 4816154)
dont go cheap if youre gonna boost your car. and yes you need it i dont think you can see your afr's with trifecta cause youre just uploading a tune to your pcm. i may be wrong though i dont know too much about trifecfta. either way like i said dont go cheap man cause youll end up spending more in the long run.

Yeah I know what you mean. Better to do it right the first time. Anything else I should be aware of?

Jn2 Apr 6, 2010 01:52 AM

The whine is addicting....



If ur auto I strongly recommend a tranny cooler

007CobaltLS Apr 6, 2010 02:10 AM

AT FTW w/ ZZP SC setup...that's what I'm doing. I will be adding a tranny cooler down the road long before I go SC....just as peace of mind. Want to get other things out of the way first though.

troyss Apr 6, 2010 02:13 AM

91 is just fine...
No need to buy an new fuel filter either, just go low on 89 and fill up on 91 before the build. Ill get rid of your stock header and dp and upgrade for sure... other than that the build is a piece of cake. Common car knowledge is needed and that's it

HyperMuffin Apr 6, 2010 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by troyss (Post 4819568)
91 is just fine...
No need to buy an new fuel filter either, just go low on 89 and fill up on 91 before the build. Ill get rid of your stock header and dp and upgrade for sure... other than that the build is a piece of cake. Common car knowledge is needed and that's it

Ill probably be sticking with stock dp and header but they will probably get replaced later down the road. I have the funds for the kit but I cant really afford to be buying bolt ons to.

007CobaltLS Apr 6, 2010 08:16 AM

It probably would be a good idea to make sure you get a header/DP combo that will flow for the SC better....you have a REALLY restricted system with the stock exh. mani./dp. I'm not saying you will have problems, but I would think you might run into some while running the stock setup...even just upgrading to the LSJ DP will help a lot if you want to keep the stock exh. manifold.

06_ion2 Apr 6, 2010 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by troyss (Post 4819568)
91 is just fine...
No need to buy an new fuel filter either, just go low on 89 and fill up on 91 before the build. Ill get rid of your stock header and dp and upgrade for sure... other than that the build is a piece of cake. Common car knowledge is needed and that's it

So your saying fuel filters are good for the life of the car? Id say its in his best interest to change it out if its never been changed before. Its the most common thing everyone never changes, its kinda a big deal we dont have a recirculating fuel system so any restriction is a big deal.

007CobaltLS Apr 6, 2010 01:22 PM

I did mine around 30-32k miles...they're quite simple...not too pricey either. Just a good idea to have done every 30k to 45k given certain factors...I probably could have waited until about 40k to do mine as it wasn't too bad.

troyss Apr 6, 2010 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by 007CobaltLS (Post 4819747)
It probably would be a good idea to make sure you get a header/DP combo that will flow for the SC better....you have a REALLY restricted system with the stock exh. mani./dp. I'm not saying you will have problems, but I would think you might run into some while running the stock setup...even just upgrading to the LSJ DP will help a lot if you want to keep the stock exh. manifold.

This

HyperMuffin Apr 6, 2010 08:13 PM

Well alright then I will probably get a lsj header/dp, but does anyone know if it will the lsj header bolts up to a 2.25 in tsudo n1 catback?

mofofernando Apr 6, 2010 09:16 PM

i have a lsj exhaust mani if youre interested

HyperMuffin Apr 6, 2010 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by mofofernando (Post 4821604)
i have a lsj exhaust mani if youre interested

Have someone local that is selling headers and dp to me.

Also yeah I should change my fuel filter since I have 50k miles and it should have probably already been changed by now. Plus the fuel filter is only like 18$ at autozone.


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