2009 L61
 

Rumor on the Street that the L61 is getting a makeover for 2009 Models....featuring all the same things as 07/08 Models with a new feature....VVT for a max power of 155hp 150ft/lb tq

so with that it's the LAP Engine....it's a mixture of the L61 and LE5...go figure lol....so that may give those 07/08 owners something to ponder...their engine with a LE5 Head and some tuning and you may have something there....just thought i'd pass that along lol

wow even with vvt still only at 155...LAME!!!!!A K20 is making right around 200hp and its a 2 liter.GM needs to step up with N/A IMO

they did...back in the day...2.3 HO made 190hp...back in the 90s

What the hell.There dropping the ball with the L61.

should have bought a supercharged 2.0 then if u wanna complain about base model performance

well...the engine is for gas mileage and emissions stuff...not performance...if you want performance go with the LSJ or LNF Engines....hence why they are around lol....

its called MPG. thats what consumers want

Source??? cause the street aint one

i think the lsj are even underpowered for stock..LNF's are great.I bought a base model for lightweight and i want to boost my own vehicle and build the engine myself.I dont like vehicles that much that are factory turbo/supercharged...Dont get me wrong i would buy one if it was a good deal only....just my opinion..

SAE Website....it's there...but i'm not paying 50 bucks for the Spec sheets lol

and here is the big kicker

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2009/...005/index.html

need i say more?

Nope all good

iirc isnt the k20 super high compression, like 11 or 12:1, and rev a lot higher too? whats the L61, 9 or 9.5:1, with a redline of what like 6k?

L61 10:1 comp with rev limit at 6500

It won't be called the L61 and this is hella old news.

LAP or LAF or something...

And if you bitch about the base model performance you are retarded...compared to a base civic motor the base destroys it in terms of HP and mileage.

You Guys Are Retarded, The L61 Is The Base Econo Box Motor If You Want Power Gm Has A Lot Of Roads For You But Dont Bitch Because They Improved There Standard Motor And Didnt Make It A Ricers Wet Dream

Agreed In one way...but you know it will become a ricers dream come true with tuning and F/I...take a look at what the JDM Cars have done and what the Cobalt SS/NA did with F/I...now comes the LAP Engine...which is an improvement don't get me wrong...but some kid will get an 09 LT or something like that and have daddy buy a turbo and then it will turn into the "American Civic" lmfao....

You do realize the LE5 will be an option for LT's?


:lol:

Yayness everywhere!

Whoa! Somebody is being a little too literal...it was a joke....you know ha ha? Punchline being "American Civic" .....

wow......

BLAH!!!!Im not really bitchin...just sayin kinda lame..they put vvt and it boost hp only 5hp..odd..Thats all im saying doesnt matter to me cause im gonna be ripping my engine apart and doin a complete build after cams come out for 07's

I know, this car...it is everywhere and most people think it is the fastest thing on the road.

:lol:

American Civic it is.

It has been since like 06:lol:

It is cam phasing and is nothing like VTAK


So it only gaining 5hp is decent.

Also it is getting the GenII block which means it cools better thanks to better cooling jackets.

Means more boost in the end...and gets all the dinosaurs out of the ecotec closet

LE5 Motor is gone in all cobalt models for the 2009 Model Year. they are all going to the LAP Engine with the exception of the LNF in the SS Coupe and Sedan.

so the LS/LT will have the LAP Engine
SS will have LNF

the LE5 will be in some GM Vehicles...but not the Cobalts....

enjoy

I could have sworn I saw that they are getting rid of the sport package and renaming it the performance package and it is basically a Cobalt Sport.

Yeah it was the original plan to have an LS, LT, 2LT, and SS with the line up like so:

LS, LT : LAP Engine
2LT : LE5 or LAP, LE5 with Sport Appearance Package
SS : LNF Engine

But they scraped that idea so it's just LS, LT, SS with different options and 2 motors

eh....what can ya do though lol

No more LE5 balts!

:cry:

FTL!

info is on wikipedia also. now that isnt considered a creditable source but its there