L61/LAP Turbo/Super (Forced Induction) Build Thread
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L61/LAP Turbo/Super (Forced Induction) Build Thread
I found a few build links that we've accumulated over the past few years. There are many more people who installed forced industion systems than what I have listed, these are what I remember and threads that have some useful info. I choose not to mention the threads with no info. While I do have build links posted, please CHECK the threads these members have made as well, lots of good info. This is and will always be a work in progress! If I missed you or you see something that should be posted in here lemme know!
****Please note that these are in NO particular order, things have changed a little since sw4y started his build
Turbo:
Sw4y1313's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/2-2-turbo-finished-44321/
pykie's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/pykies-turbo-build-156551/
PsychoCam's secound round: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/psychocams-turbo-build-round-2-a-160420/
Delta2.2's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/delta2-2s-turbo-2006-cobalt-ls-build-129362/
b_faulk75's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/just-another-2-2l-going-turbo-thread-163351/
mrsilent13's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/2005-2-2-turbo-110182/
mrsilent13's other threadhttps://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=163337
Ec0t3cHp0w3r's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/ec0t3chs-custom-2-2l-turbo-135371/
xCobalt05x's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/sts-remote-mount-turbo-77656/
xCobalt05X's update: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/squires-turbo-systems-remote-mount-update-109284/
Jn2's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/jn2s-turbo-build-thread-109205/
mkulrey13's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/first-turbo-sedan-2-2l-pics-vids-95373/
*S!CC_R@c!NG_TURTL3*'s build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/turtle-turtles-trubo-build-lol-197598/
09blackonblack's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-lap-performance-tech-168/my-build-thread-206388/
Spanky's Monkey's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/zzp-turbo-stage-2-2-2-a-206677/
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Supercharged:
MP81's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/mp81s-supercharged-l61-build-155214/
dragonkingg5's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/dragonkingg5s-supercharger-build-206930/
HunterKiller89's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-guide-43/hunters-how-install-m62-2-2l-cobalt-127891/
Gene's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-lap-performance-tech-168/genes-2-2-lap-supercharger-build-166563/
CrazyFoo328's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/crazyfoo328s-s-c-build-193004/
stenguyen1's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/tell-your-grandma%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A-its-supercharged-sedan%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A-156684/
x8xViperx6x's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/x8xviperx6xs-official-2-2sc-build-186474/
jbenso4's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-lap-performance-tech-168/jbenso4s-supercharge-build-197046/
Jn2's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/jn2s-goes-easy-route-158768/
Illini_06SS's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-4l-le5-performance-tech-46/uh-oh-its-coming-192083/
redcobalt07's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/supercharger-build-thread-213054/
krautsalat's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/krautsalat-2-2-sc-build-canada-213321/
Cobaltxfe09's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-lap-performance-tech-168/m62-install-2-2lap-xfe-remix-215404/
wbrevels's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/revels-2-2-sc-build-thread-217584/
Pedobear's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/l61-sc-build-pedobear-style-219258/
EcoTecDriver: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/supercharger-build-my-2-2l-g5-219119/
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Turbocharged resources:
NJHK's how-to build a kit for your ECOTEC: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/how-build-your-own-ecotec-turbo-kit-43463/
NJHK's spool info thread: http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1856
NJHK's Ultimate turbo FAQ: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/ultimate-ecotec-related-turbo-faq-33820/
Garrett Turbo info: http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ch_center.html
(read each section!)
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Supercharged resources:
ryansalazan: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/supercharged-build-problem-199126/
Gene's VERY detailed parts list: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...7&postcount=16
Fonzi1289 started a general SC thread - lots of good info: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/2-2-sc-thread-205667/
Hypermuffin's FI prep: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/2-2l-zzp-sc-questions-210359/
wbrevels's picture thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/revels-2-2-ls-sc-pic-thread-219802/
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These members have many threads concerning their F/I build, search the threads they made:
erock666: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/members/erock666-42284/
BIG-DAVE: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/members/big-dave-14031/
krautsalat: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/members/krautsalat-52092/
rockstarbass1: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/sear...archid=1532608
wbrevels: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/members/wbrevels-26432/
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F/I info:
What is the difference between a supercharger and turbocharger? Hopefully you know by this point but..:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question122.htm
Garret Turbo FAQ:
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...nter/faqs.html
Bimmer Forums – How to read Compressor maps:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=258035
Free for all type info on Methanol Injection:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/alcohol-injection-systems-154/questions-about-water-methanol-alcohol-injection-post-them-here-83289/
Air to Fuel Ratio (AFR) - You need to know what this is in general and you need to know what your car's ratio is! You realy should buy a wideband gauge! More info courtesy of AEM:
http://www.aemelectronics.com/faq.php?cID=3
IAT relocation Kit:
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...duct_info.html
07Maliboo -short but some good pieces of info: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-lap-performance-tech-168/turbo-supercharge-199228/
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Beck, not a 2.2 but he was one of the first to post great info!
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-guide-43/how-beck%92s-2-4l-supercharged-build-walkthrough-80620/
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Kits you can buy TODAY:
ZZP turbocharger: https://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt...=922&catid=143
The only 2.2L ZZP turbo kit build thread (documented here at least): https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=206677
Spanky's Monkey's
ZZP Supercharger: https://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt...1165&catid=143
To my knowledge, no 2.2L has this installed here.
STS: http://www.ststurbo.com/home
xCobalt05x: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=77656
I believe this is NOT a cobalt specific kit, you may need to do some fabrication and make some decisions.
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Who actually makes these products for us?
There are a few choices for turbocharger's for us..
Many members use Garrett turbos: http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ochargers.html
The majority, if not all supercharged builds are using Eaton M62 roots type superchargers.
Eaton FAQ:http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc.../FAQ/index.htm
Eaton M62 specific info: http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc.../M62/index.htm
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Tuning:
Your car will blow up if you can not adjust for a forced induction system. Maybe not...but I would count on this as much of a certainty as paying taxes and dying.
Trifecta is a remote tuning option for the 2.2L's. Supported vehicles: 2005-2009 Chevrolet Cobalt 2.2L
http://www.trifectaperformance.com/default.aspx
Many of the 2.2L cobalts have been tuned by Trifecta tuning. You can read about specifically how people has implemented this tune in the many build logs above. Jlong does NOT have a cobalt with a F/I system installed but he wrote up a great review on his experience:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/08-cobalt-2-2l-auto-trans-trifecta-tune-review-204346/
While it is convenient to to do this remotely there have been cases where it has taken a week or more to fully dial-in a tune, keep this in mind.
Here is a quick clip from their website:
LS2 Edit software works for certain models - 07 L61, 08 L61, 09 LAP
Looks like this isthe website: http://carputing.tripod.com/LS2main.htm
I have not yet seen any reviews on an LS2Edit tune, if you are tuned please post up your experience here!
There are other options that people used to use but I'm not going to look for them. If you wanna post them, do it up and I'll add.
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I got some books.. Street turbocharging Design, Fabrication, installation, and tuning of High-performance Turbocharger Systems by Mark Warner - Recommended to me by the one and only NJHK!
I also bought Turbocharging Performance handbook (Motorbooks Workshop) by Jeff Hartman, good read. Had to read it... a few times
If you managed to read through just this post, you've made it to step one! Now go click on each build, read, understand, love!
****Please note that these are in NO particular order, things have changed a little since sw4y started his build
Turbo:
Sw4y1313's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/2-2-turbo-finished-44321/
pykie's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/pykies-turbo-build-156551/
PsychoCam's secound round: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/psychocams-turbo-build-round-2-a-160420/
Delta2.2's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/delta2-2s-turbo-2006-cobalt-ls-build-129362/
b_faulk75's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/just-another-2-2l-going-turbo-thread-163351/
mrsilent13's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/2005-2-2-turbo-110182/
mrsilent13's other threadhttps://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=163337
Ec0t3cHp0w3r's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/ec0t3chs-custom-2-2l-turbo-135371/
xCobalt05x's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/sts-remote-mount-turbo-77656/
xCobalt05X's update: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/squires-turbo-systems-remote-mount-update-109284/
Jn2's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/jn2s-turbo-build-thread-109205/
mkulrey13's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/first-turbo-sedan-2-2l-pics-vids-95373/
*S!CC_R@c!NG_TURTL3*'s build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/turtle-turtles-trubo-build-lol-197598/
09blackonblack's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-lap-performance-tech-168/my-build-thread-206388/
Spanky's Monkey's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/zzp-turbo-stage-2-2-2-a-206677/
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Supercharged:
MP81's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/mp81s-supercharged-l61-build-155214/
dragonkingg5's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/dragonkingg5s-supercharger-build-206930/
HunterKiller89's build: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-guide-43/hunters-how-install-m62-2-2l-cobalt-127891/
Gene's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-lap-performance-tech-168/genes-2-2-lap-supercharger-build-166563/
CrazyFoo328's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/crazyfoo328s-s-c-build-193004/
stenguyen1's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/tell-your-grandma%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A-its-supercharged-sedan%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A-156684/
x8xViperx6x's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/x8xviperx6xs-official-2-2sc-build-186474/
jbenso4's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-lap-performance-tech-168/jbenso4s-supercharge-build-197046/
Jn2's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/jn2s-goes-easy-route-158768/
Illini_06SS's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-4l-le5-performance-tech-46/uh-oh-its-coming-192083/
redcobalt07's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/supercharger-build-thread-213054/
krautsalat's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/krautsalat-2-2-sc-build-canada-213321/
Cobaltxfe09's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-lap-performance-tech-168/m62-install-2-2lap-xfe-remix-215404/
wbrevels's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/revels-2-2-sc-build-thread-217584/
Pedobear's build thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/l61-sc-build-pedobear-style-219258/
EcoTecDriver: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/supercharger-build-my-2-2l-g5-219119/
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Turbocharged resources:
NJHK's how-to build a kit for your ECOTEC: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/how-build-your-own-ecotec-turbo-kit-43463/
NJHK's spool info thread: http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1856
NJHK's Ultimate turbo FAQ: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/ultimate-ecotec-related-turbo-faq-33820/
Garrett Turbo info: http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ch_center.html
(read each section!)
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Supercharged resources:
ryansalazan: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/supercharged-build-problem-199126/
Gene's VERY detailed parts list: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...7&postcount=16
Fonzi1289 started a general SC thread - lots of good info: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/2-2-sc-thread-205667/
Hypermuffin's FI prep: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/2-2l-zzp-sc-questions-210359/
wbrevels's picture thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/revels-2-2-ls-sc-pic-thread-219802/
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These members have many threads concerning their F/I build, search the threads they made:
erock666: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/members/erock666-42284/
BIG-DAVE: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/members/big-dave-14031/
krautsalat: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/members/krautsalat-52092/
rockstarbass1: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/sear...archid=1532608
wbrevels: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/members/wbrevels-26432/
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F/I info:
What is the difference between a supercharger and turbocharger? Hopefully you know by this point but..:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question122.htm
Garret Turbo FAQ:
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...nter/faqs.html
Bimmer Forums – How to read Compressor maps:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=258035
Free for all type info on Methanol Injection:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/alcohol-injection-systems-154/questions-about-water-methanol-alcohol-injection-post-them-here-83289/
Air to Fuel Ratio (AFR) - You need to know what this is in general and you need to know what your car's ratio is! You realy should buy a wideband gauge! More info courtesy of AEM:
http://www.aemelectronics.com/faq.php?cID=3
IAT relocation Kit:
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...duct_info.html
07Maliboo -short but some good pieces of info: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-lap-performance-tech-168/turbo-supercharge-199228/
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Beck, not a 2.2 but he was one of the first to post great info!
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-guide-43/how-beck%92s-2-4l-supercharged-build-walkthrough-80620/
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kits you can buy TODAY:
ZZP turbocharger: https://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt...=922&catid=143
The only 2.2L ZZP turbo kit build thread (documented here at least): https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=206677
Spanky's Monkey's
ZZP Supercharger: https://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt...1165&catid=143
To my knowledge, no 2.2L has this installed here.
STS: http://www.ststurbo.com/home
xCobalt05x: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=77656
I believe this is NOT a cobalt specific kit, you may need to do some fabrication and make some decisions.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Who actually makes these products for us?
There are a few choices for turbocharger's for us..
Many members use Garrett turbos: http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ochargers.html
The majority, if not all supercharged builds are using Eaton M62 roots type superchargers.
Eaton FAQ:http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc.../FAQ/index.htm
Eaton M62 specific info: http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc.../M62/index.htm
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Tuning:
Your car will blow up if you can not adjust for a forced induction system. Maybe not...but I would count on this as much of a certainty as paying taxes and dying.
Trifecta is a remote tuning option for the 2.2L's. Supported vehicles: 2005-2009 Chevrolet Cobalt 2.2L
http://www.trifectaperformance.com/default.aspx
Many of the 2.2L cobalts have been tuned by Trifecta tuning. You can read about specifically how people has implemented this tune in the many build logs above. Jlong does NOT have a cobalt with a F/I system installed but he wrote up a great review on his experience:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/08-cobalt-2-2l-auto-trans-trifecta-tune-review-204346/
While it is convenient to to do this remotely there have been cases where it has taken a week or more to fully dial-in a tune, keep this in mind.
Here is a quick clip from their website:
LS2 Edit software works for certain models - 07 L61, 08 L61, 09 LAP
Looks like this isthe website: http://carputing.tripod.com/LS2main.htm
I have not yet seen any reviews on an LS2Edit tune, if you are tuned please post up your experience here!
There are other options that people used to use but I'm not going to look for them. If you wanna post them, do it up and I'll add.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I got some books.. Street turbocharging Design, Fabrication, installation, and tuning of High-performance Turbocharger Systems by Mark Warner - Recommended to me by the one and only NJHK!
I also bought Turbocharging Performance handbook (Motorbooks Workshop) by Jeff Hartman, good read. Had to read it... a few times
If you managed to read through just this post, you've made it to step one! Now go click on each build, read, understand, love!
Last edited by Mr.N00bLaR; 06-26-2010 at 03:16 AM.
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steve found a nice piece that a lot of people on here will like (one that i wanted too)
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...duct_info.html
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...duct_info.html
Designed for GM 5 pin mass air sensors with the IAT sensor built into the MAF. This will allow you to disable your factory factory IAT sensor in the MAF housing allowing for the use of our new IAT sensor to be position where you need it. Perfect for applications which are now using a water methanol injection system and want to tune the ECU to adjust timing and fuel based on changes in air temperatures.
Contents Included:
* IAT sensor
* Sensor grommet
* Wiring harness
Features Included:
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Plug and play - no cutting of the factory wiring harness
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Allows you to reposition your IAT down stream of your water methanol injection nozzle
*
EPDM rubber grommet compatible with 100% methanol
Contents Included:
* IAT sensor
* Sensor grommet
* Wiring harness
Features Included:
*
Plug and play - no cutting of the factory wiring harness
*
Allows you to reposition your IAT down stream of your water methanol injection nozzle
*
EPDM rubber grommet compatible with 100% methanol
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Bump TTT. I added a little bit on the tune options and a little more on the kits. If you have been tuned by Trifecta for F/I on your 2.2L, could you do a write up on the process you went through? Thoughts, feelings, amount of time it took, communication with Trifecta etc. If you have a F/I 2.2L LS2edit tuned cobalt please post up your experience!! Maybe when I'm done with school I'll go into some show and tell in terms of picture/parts and cooling solutions. The epic-ness must continue
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I have a ZZP SC kit on the way for my 05 2.2L base model. Ordered it today. Was going to get the upgraded injectors but im worried about my internals so I went with the base stage 1 kit and I will also be putting on a stock lsj header and dp.
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can we add my thread to the supercharger thread?
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=213054
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=213054
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Can you please add my thread. Thanks.
Supercharger build
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=215404
Supercharger build
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Last edited by Cobaltxfe09; 05-18-2010 at 07:16 AM.