L61 Turbo/Super (forced induction) Information Thread
#52
Originally Posted by nomoreavril
can the auto transmission hold the 250 as well or only manual? because my focus can only hold up to like 170 torque or something before it falls out.
i am not sure the exact specs but i do know that the auto trans will not hold that kind of power and if for some odd reason it does i would imagine not for long ill reply with more once i research it a little further
#53
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Originally Posted by redcobizzylt
i am not sure the exact specs but i do know that the auto trans will not hold that kind of power and if for some odd reason it does i would imagine not for long ill reply with more once i research it a little further
#54
Originally Posted by NJHK
The 4T45E can hold that much power. If the 4T40Es can, they can as well. People have proved it in the past.
you maybe right i just couldnt see the transmission holding that much power cause i know my buddy with a automatic cobalt with a rigged up turbo system when i say rigged up i mean completely rigged up it was off my old neon and my neon was throwing out 272whp and his transmission already went twice the only reason he wont switch to a stick is he doesnt know how to drive one
#56
How to "S/C" a 2.2 Cobalt
This has been running through my mind for a while now. Down the line when my warranty is expired I'd like to supercharge my 2.2 Cobalt using the same SC setup thats on the SS and Redline. Now here is my idea... (keep in mind I know I need tuning before any of this is possible)
First of all I'd need to actual supercharger, likely used or from a junkyard along with all its components, pulley, intake etc. Then larger injectors and of course this whole setup would have to have a custom tune, hopefully this will be possible when HP Tuners cracks the 2.2 ECM.
How feasible is this, assuming I could find a shop that would custom tune the 2.2 ECM to the S/C setup. I know as far as fitment of the supercharger, intake, etc there aren't any issues, but is anything else in my way besides tuning?
I'd imagine a S/C-ed 2.2 running a conservative amount of boost would produce over 200hp, accurate guess?
First of all I'd need to actual supercharger, likely used or from a junkyard along with all its components, pulley, intake etc. Then larger injectors and of course this whole setup would have to have a custom tune, hopefully this will be possible when HP Tuners cracks the 2.2 ECM.
How feasible is this, assuming I could find a shop that would custom tune the 2.2 ECM to the S/C setup. I know as far as fitment of the supercharger, intake, etc there aren't any issues, but is anything else in my way besides tuning?
I'd imagine a S/C-ed 2.2 running a conservative amount of boost would produce over 200hp, accurate guess?
#58
Originally Posted by Kemo
I read maximum boost has 3 stages of turbo levels to pick from. Isn't it useless unless there is some way to tune?
#59
so THAT is the company you guys were talking about that does bad business correct?
Sorry, but this turbo thing has me bit hard!
Had to test drive a S70 T5, had NO clue it had turbo in it. Floored it because it was doggy as heck... then she takes off about 2 seconds later. Yeah i like that
Can you point me in the general direction of where to look? It still sucks that there is no tuning software.
Oh and is it still a rumor of new cobalts being turbocharged?
EDIT -
I forgot to ask! If and WHEN it is released... how much PSI can the stock 2.2 take? I heard 8 was most on the early ecotec models. what would be mandatory to upgrade? Pistons, rods, shaft, valve train... what else?
Sorry, but this turbo thing has me bit hard!
Had to test drive a S70 T5, had NO clue it had turbo in it. Floored it because it was doggy as heck... then she takes off about 2 seconds later. Yeah i like that
Can you point me in the general direction of where to look? It still sucks that there is no tuning software.
Oh and is it still a rumor of new cobalts being turbocharged?
EDIT -
I forgot to ask! If and WHEN it is released... how much PSI can the stock 2.2 take? I heard 8 was most on the early ecotec models. what would be mandatory to upgrade? Pistons, rods, shaft, valve train... what else?
#60
sts turbo
http://www.ststurbo.com/universal_system
Pics of the kit mounted on the 2.2 cobalt =) hmmm maybe someone should ask some questions, cause my email thing is down.
Pics of the kit mounted on the 2.2 cobalt =) hmmm maybe someone should ask some questions, cause my email thing is down.
#61
I'm old school
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Nice Find! I'll see what they can tell me about it. I'm sure it's just a fitment test and they also do not yet have a tuning solution. But I'll ask.
Check out some of the plumbing in that picture. The oil return goes right into the oil cap! And the extra fuel injector is attached right to the fuel rail.
#63
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looks good but what about water splashing up on the turbo if its running hot? would there be any adverse effects to be concerned with? i drive my cobbie everywhere through rain, sleet and snow and that sure as **** dont look like a postman in a hamster wheel down there.
#64
yaaa baby maybe i will keep my 2.2 yes keep us posted iam in too gots new jop so i would wouldent mind some boost.but ya i live in a rainy ass place soo that spot looks iffy
#65
Originally Posted by Halfcent
You don't have to do anything if you don't want to. The engine and trans can safely handle 250HP without modification. More actually, but that's a conservative number.
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so about how much less horsepower does your car have now? Also on that sts turbo system...what if yo have an exhaust system? Like a corsa system, would it cause any problems? I don't think so, but fitting is the only issue i can think of.
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#72
I'm old school
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Originally Posted by lil_kano
so about how much less horsepower does your car have now? Also on that sts turbo system...what if yo have an exhaust system? Like a corsa system, would it cause any problems? I don't think so, but fitting is the only issue i can think of.
If you used this system and had an exhaust, you would have to remove your exhaust from the muffler back.
#73
damn that system is dumping right out the wastegate AND the exit outlet on the turbo...that thing has to sound like a tractor....screw a open downpipe i want open turbo
#74
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It just seems like too much room for problems, too long of tubing and bends for compressed air to travel, exposure to elements, distance for oil lines to travel...
I can understand why cars like Corvettes do it, they have very little space underneath the hood. Honestly, you guys more than enough space to a proper turbo setup underneath your hood where it is secure.
That's my opinion though.
I can understand why cars like Corvettes do it, they have very little space underneath the hood. Honestly, you guys more than enough space to a proper turbo setup underneath your hood where it is secure.
That's my opinion though.
#75
in going along with everyone...one more sideeffect will be major boost lag..the exaust gasses will have to travel too far to get many major boost off the line...inless the go will a really small t3 or t3/t4 turbo you wont see many exciting numbers on the dyno. and water will def be an issue...i live in southern louisiana and a day without rain is like a day with out sunllight...i wouldd boycott this kit until STS makes some kind of spash guard or....plastic turbo or until they can prove water can not and will not destroy a turbo...