Shady... what reprogram are you talking about? Details

WE REFLASHED THE PCM WITH AN 06 PCM PROGRAM THAT DOSENT HAVE SAI THEN DISCONNECTED THE SAI PUMP

oooh, so we wouldnt trip a CEL... Hmmm this could open things up. I am guessing you have removed the stock intake and header?

i dont know yet i am going to drive around for a few days and see if anything happens

Keep me updated... If this works I would be very interested.

If you are able to eliminate the CEL than I think alot of us 2.2 guys would be ecstatic... We can just fully remove the system replace the intake and header and be much happier.

I imagine we would still pass emissions since other models do without this pain in the ass system... anybody else have any input?

**what was the work you did to remove the pump? I didn't realize there was a pump.

Well I Havent Removed It Yet We Just Pulled The Fuse For It

ok so i drove 40 miles after work and no cel. so i guess it is working so far i will let you know if anything changes

last night went to leave and go home and when i started the car the cel came on. we are going to scan later and find out what the code is. i will let you know

So I Finally Got My Car Scanned For The Cel And There Was A P0411 Dtc Which Is Sai Open Circut Code. We Disconnected The Harness To The Pump And We Will See What Happens

Keep us updated.

I would say your reflash failed then. You wouldn't get a code for an SAI failure if the OS doesn't include data for SAI.

Damnit... I gotta side with Halfcent here... keep it up tho bro. Would be great if you figured this out

i was thinking the same thing when he told me what the code was. last night i got in my car and had a cel on again so i guess it is back to the drawing board...

Keep up the work shady... I was in your area for all of an hour yesterday on my way back from vacation. Sitting in an airport in Phoenix and debating on running out of the airport and not getting on a plane back to Boston... I was damn close

who did your reflash? do you drive an dogomatick or stick?

i also did a pcm reflash on my delta,with a manual trans, i work at a GM dealer so i did some research and found that the reason for the sai pump setup on my vehicle was it has california emissions. after requesting info from the vehicle i conncted to my pc went through the sps menus i was asked to select from a list of RPO choices, tire sizes, and trans(man or auto) i chose the same tire size and trans, and the non cali emiisions RPO.
i then unplugged my sai pump ,and have driven 1800 mile w/o SES for SAI

sorry for not having the actual RPOs i will repost tommorow so feel free to drop any ?s

Interesting. So basically you're just switching off California emissions?

i thought this is what he did but i guess not so we will have to redo it

So does the SAI limit the exhaust possibilities for our cars? Would we be able to still put on an after market cat back or even a full exhaust?

You can still put on a cat back, you just cannot use a tube style header, as no one makes one that will work with the SAI yet, that we know of.

Thanks a lot for the quick answer. One more quick question, do the 07's have SAI on them? Or is it just on the 06's?

some 06 have them (the later produced ones) and ALL 07s have it.

I have an 07 LT and i dont have the SAI.

Not true... not all 07's have the AIR system. Only the cars that were designed to comply with stricter emission requirements have it.

subscribed...hopefully some sort of answer or aftermarket parts that work with the SAI come out soon i want to improve my ls sooo bad. oh and a ? for you guys. i have seen the k&n typhoon intake and it looks pretty good, but how does this intake compare numberwise to the injen? also i know its a newb question but CEL is check engine light right? thanks guys:guns:

Check out the thread "restricted by SAI" We have spoken with Donna from Cobalt Addiction and if we can get a 2.2 with SAI in there, they would be willing to fabricate something which may become available. CEL is Check Engine Light, but the light itself is a MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp)

They're in NY aren't they? I'm in Northern NJ and I have an 06 w/ SAI. Hmmmm....