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Old 10-16-2014, 09:07 PM
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Y-pipe (cut-out)

This guy at my work said he'll make me a y pipe for my cobalt if I just buy all the parts he'll make it for me and install it for me. What would be the pros of running open header?
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Don't do it on a N/A 2.2. It'll just make a terrible noise.
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Originally Posted by cluelessk
Don't do it on a N/A 2.2. It'll just make a terrible noise.
video link? And I was asking about the pros I wasn't asking about the sound.
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No advantages whatsoever. Honestly you're just ruining your car.
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only ruining it if you have it routed in such a way that it burns something. but there are literally no pros to this. spend your money on better things
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Originally Posted by southal cobalt
only ruining it if you have it routed in such a way that it burns something. but there are literally no pros to this. spend your money on better things
what about cutting of the cat and sliding a pop in place of it?
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If no turbo keep the cat.

Otherwise you'll be branded a ricer and requested to have your left ******** removed.
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Originally Posted by Haven07
If no turbo keep the cat
I plan on going turbo in about a year or so.
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Then wait,
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Why not just wait and buy a SS/TC
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How much you wanna bet that turbo swap never happens?

I remember being 17.
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Ah yes to be 17 again
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Originally Posted by cluelessk
How much you wanna bet that turbo swap never happens? I remember being 17.
when I get my Christmas bonus from work and tax returns and whatever I save from the money I make at 12$ an hour is what I'll have for the turbo so I'm pretty confident I can make it happen, you don't have to be a dick.
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Originally Posted by cluelessk
How much you wanna bet that turbo swap never happens?

I remember being 17.
Hahahaha
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Not to try to change your mind or anything, but you will make about the same power supercharging your 2.2 as you will going turbo. That engine in stock form can only take so much, and you can pretty much max that out with an m62. You can definitely make a little more with a turbo, but you can piece everything together to bolt up an m62 for a grand or less. Just something to think about

I don't think you'll see much gain with a catless pipe until you do go forced induction, and even then the gains won't be much more
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Originally Posted by southal cobalt
Not to try to change your mind or anything, but you will make about the same power supercharging your 2.2 as you will going turbo. That engine in stock form can only take so much, and you can pretty much max that out with an m62. You can definitely make a little more with a turbo, but you can piece everything together to bolt up an m62 for a grand or less. Just something to think about I don't think you'll see much gain with a catless pipe until you do go forced induction, and even then the gains won't be much more
I think I'll do that then because I want to get forged internals a new intake manifold and PnP my head. Thanks for the input.
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By the time you've done all that your looking at around 6-7k if not more

A built engine will be a couple g's in itself and if you do that your gonna need cams and springs and send the head out to be ported. Then there's the tuning... And if I'm not mistaken the early 2.2's have to go to trifecta to get a tune right? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if that's the case that's another strike...

And this is after you get supporting mods like cooling, fueling upgrades, suspension upgrades...

All the money your talkin about spending + yours cars worth can be used to buy an lsj or be a decent down payment toward a lnf... If you waited a year like you were talking about. And you will have a much better platform to work with.

Don't won't to discourage you, a m62 2.2 would be a fun little daily but with the work your talking I would just get a lnf or lsj
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well, if you do decide to go forged and get stronger sleeves, turbo might be the best direction, if you want to make over 300 hp. m62 with high octane and a pnp head will definitely get you close to 300, but more can be had from a turbo. but piecing together an sc kit is the best bang for the buck. and you can run a 3"-3.35" pulley safely on the stock motor. that will net you somewhere between 220-260 hp
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Originally Posted by Haven07
By the time you've done all that your looking at around 6-7k if not more A built engine will be a couple g's in itself and if you do that your gonna need cams and springs and send the head out to be ported. Then there's the tuning... And if I'm not mistaken the early 2.2's have to go to trifecta to get a tune right? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if that's the case that's another strike... And this is after you get supporting mods like cooling, fueling upgrades, suspension upgrades... All the money your talkin about spending + yours cars worth can be used to buy an lsj or be a decent down payment toward a lnf... If you waited a year like you were talking about. And you will have a much better platform to work with. Don't won't to discourage you, a m62 2.2 would be a fun little daily but with the work your talking I would just get a lnf or lsj
I'm not looking to build a race car lol I'm just making a fun daily and be reliable with the forged internals to push a little extra than the stock internals can handle. And there's places here that will PnP the head and tune it.
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well, if you do decide to go forged and get stronger sleeves, turbo might be the best direction, if you want to make over 300 hp. m62 with high octane and a pnp head will definitely get you close to 300, but more can be had from a turbo. but piecing together an sc kit is the best bang for the buck. and you can run a 3"-3.35" pulley safely on the stock motor. that will net you somewhere between 220-260 hp
I'm not trying to break 300. 300 is where I stop if I even get there.
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Originally Posted by southal cobalt
well, if you do decide to go forged and get stronger sleeves, turbo might be the best direction, if you want to make over 300 hp. m62 with high octane and a pnp head will definitely get you close to 300, but more can be had from a turbo. but piecing together an sc kit is the best bang for the buck. and you can run a 3"-3.35" pulley safely on the stock motor. that will net you somewhere between 220-260 hp
would an 04-07 2.2 eaton m62 fit my 09 2.2
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Have you been in a sc balt before? There ok for what they are

Can give u a ride in my for a similar comparison.
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Also 2.2 eaton? M62 eaton will fit with the lsj manifold. Very simple
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Don't waste your time guys.
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Don't waste your time guys.
dude who are you and why are you hating?
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Also 2.2 eaton? M62 eaton will fit with the lsj manifold. Very simple
so I get an lsj manifold for the 2.2 and I'm good? I looked at used superchargers and everything. Not too bad. A lot cheaper than turbo, that's for sure. And is your cobalt the black one? That ones bad ass.


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