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Old 11-03-2013, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by qwank View Post
it's $25 for 5 qts of mobil one at walmart. and I get oil filters for free at work. I've seen what happens to these engines when people wait until the oil percentage is down to 0% every time. GM even had a recall on a ton of vehicles to shorten the time the monitor counts down because of this.

$25 every 8 weeks is no big deal to prevent sludge and my VVT actuators and solenoids from sticking, and timing chain stretch.


What he said.
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I'm not going to get into a huge argument with you because I'm not a great debater, I'm just trying to tell everyone what we experience everyday in the dealership.

I know how the alogrithm works, and I know GM has stretched it because of pressure from the government. New regulations are out, that's why Dexos was created.

here's an article I found doing a google search about the GF-5 regulation: Signposts on the Road to GF-5

We don't test oil samples, my dealer warranties everything to keep the customer happy.

yes we have a 500 gallon Dexos tank.
I dont want to debate anything lol, but you make statements " I know GM has stretched it ( the OLM Algorithm) because of pressure from the goverment"
How do you know this? The pressure is for fuel economy not OLM extended drain intervals. So please provide your source. OLM doesnt determine fuel economy. Oil viscometrics and a .5% improvement in fuel economy with GF-5 has zero to do with the OLM.


I also asked if you have TWO oil tanks at work. I beleive that some folks get the incorrect specification oil in their engines. Is this possible where you work?

Lastly, I think posters on here generally are a lot more careful with their oil changes than the norm. I think you agree on this. I would be shy to run my engine longer than 10,000 km between oil changes, and would generally look at 5-7000 km, especially in hard winter and short run time conditions. So maybe we agree. But to my experience, the OLM tells me what I was ready to do at the correct time.

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Old 11-03-2013, 09:29 PM
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I change mine around 45%, no idea on the mileage. I'll be changing it tomorrow and will be tossing a sticker on the windshield to see where that gets me. Really need to get a lab check done on it, going to put some in a clean container until my Blackstone kit gets here. Currently at 86k mi and figure I should probably see what's going on in there.

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Old 11-03-2013, 09:33 PM
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yes we have 500 gallon oil tank of whatever the cheapest regular oil we can buy is. LOL the parts guys pump the Dexos, but i'm sure the wrong oil does go in every once and in while. but Dexos is only required on 2011+ and we have tons of issues with 2010 and under also
we also have 55g drums synthetics.

it all ties into fuel economy for the sake of using less oil, and we all know the government regulates that. And I believe if you go 10K miles between oil changes you're gonna have problems eventually, especially with non synthetics based on what I've seen in the field.
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Originally Posted by qwank View Post
yes we have 500 gallon oil tank of whatever the cheapest regular oil we can buy is. LOL
we also have 55g drums synthetics.

it all ties into fuel economy for the sake of using less oil, and we all know the government regulates that. And I believe if you go 10K miles between oil changes you're gonna have problems eventually, especially with non synthetics based on what I've seen in the field.
please note I run a canadian car. Kilometers. 5/8 of a mile - 1 kilometer. NOT 10,000 miles. And all these engines we run, are forced induction run full synthetic oils. Even partial synthetics are pretty decent oils these days, but GM cars must run GM specification oil to maintain warranty and that DEXOS oil is not "regular" oil, or should not be.
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Qwank, if you want to change your oil every x amount of miles, then that's fine. However, your bullshit claims aren't fooling anyone except those who also don't know what they are talking about.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by qwank View Post
yes we have 500 gallon oil tank of whatever the cheapest regular oil we can buy is. LOL the parts guys pump the Dexos, but i'm sure the wrong oil does go in every once and in while. but Dexos is only required on 2011+ and we have tons of issues with 2010 and under also
we also have 55g drums synthetics.

it all ties into fuel economy for the sake of using less oil, and we all know the government regulates that. And I believe if you go 10K miles between oil changes you're gonna have problems eventually, especially with non synthetics based on what I've seen in the field.
Thinner oil can change gas mileage. Government doesn't regulate oil change intervals.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:24 PM
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I think Qwuank is believing the BS the shops put out...
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Not all Qwank's BS is BS. I haven't heard anything about the .gov interfering in oil change intervals however I wouldn't be surprised if they were either.
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Not all Qwank's BS is BS. I haven't heard anything about the .gov interfering in oil change intervals however I wouldn't be surprised if they were either.
true enough. But the mix and match to prove a point gets old. I am not big into conspiracies though. The biggest influence on oil change intervals for ecotec was the swedish mentality at SAAB going from 4 litres to 6.5 for the B205?/LSJ back to 4 litres for the B235 capacity for the sump. The 6.5 was to satisfy extended drain requirements which was a Swedish thing with the greenies. But they switched mindsets at SAAB and in a year or two went back to 4 litres which is scary. LSJ is 6.5, the LNF LE5 et all are 5 litres. MY B235 is 4 litres. with filter. Yikes for 260 hp in a turbo wagon NONE of this had to to with the US government. GM were global sourcing stuff and thankfully they grabbed all that SAAB goodness. The ecotec engine series was one of "Wards 10 best engines" for a long time.
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Just changed mine at 36% :/ going to send it in as it smells heavily of fuel.
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Just changed mine at 36% :/ going to send it in as it smells heavily of fuel.
I smelled mine today too and it smelled a bit like fuel too
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