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pjk91 May 20, 2007 07:38 PM

200hp DI 2.4 Ecotec
 
I found this on GMinsidenews.com. It is information on the Saturn ASTRA (2011 eta).

Specifications Sheet

Vehicle Type: Compact 5-Passenger 4-Door Sedan and 3-Door Hatchback
Size Comparison: Mazda3
Competitors: VW Jetta/Rabbit, Honda Civic, Mazda3, Audi A3 (XR), Subaru Impreza, Mazdaspeed3, Dodge Caliber SRT-4, Subaru Impreza WRX (RL)
Base Platform: Delta II
Drive Wheels: FWD, AWD Option
Engines:
XE: 2.4L 200HP Ecotec 4 w/DI - Starting at $21,500
XR: 2.0L 245HP Ecotec Supercharged 4 - Starting at $24,350
RL: 2.0L 265HP Ecotec Turbo 4 w/DI - Starting at $26,500
Transmissions: 5 speed Manual (Standard: XE), CVT (Optional: XE/XR/RL), 6-Speed Manual (Standard: RL), 6-Speed Automatic (Standard: XR)

Renesis May 20, 2007 07:55 PM

I doubt it, is that info very old or something? it's been released and it's supposed to have a 1.8 Ecotec with 140hp, both XE and XR.


edit: just saw you mention the 2011 astra, I'm talking about the curent gen (2008)

Gturismo1 May 20, 2007 08:40 PM

That whole list seems to be riddled with inaccuracies that make the whole thing fake.

1. Why would GM put a 2.4L engine in the base model? With rising gas prices we are much more likely to see a reworked 2.0, or 1.8, with improved fuel economy and less NVH. Also, don't rule out a diesel option.

2. The idea of putting a supercharger on your mid-range model is laughable at best. Chances are we'll see the 2.4L as the mid-range option, as its becoming a very common engine in the GM stable.

3. CVT? Doubt that. GM is investing heavy dollars in developing a new 6-speed automatic for use in its small cars. Why would they invest the dollars into a CVT, to which the public response has been lukewarm. Everyone who drives a Caliber has "choice" words to say about the transmission, and I don't think GM would be spending millions on a 6-speed auto with intent only to use it in select models.

Also, just to investigate, I did some digging at GMI. You copied this "spec sheet" from the Saturn Dream Lineup sheet. That is the fictional listing of what the future of Saturn could have, not official specs.

This is all fake...here is the link...
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=49339

pjk91 May 20, 2007 09:08 PM

i think its a good concept, bump up the 2.4 standard motor to 200hp

Gturismo1 May 21, 2007 01:00 AM

I would have zero problem with a direct injected 2.4L, but not as the base model. If your going to play the compact car game, you've got to pander to fuel economy. As much as direct injection gains fuel economy, its not enough for your bread and butter, commodity base model.

I wouldn't mind seeing a 1.8L Ecotec with VVT, as your standard base engine. Realistically, all you need for a base model car is roughly 150hp. Horsepower wars look great on paper, but not so much when your emptying your wallet at the pump.

We need to start developing smaller, more efficient engines. With direct injection, and variable valve timing, I beileve that we could squeeze 150hp out of a 1.8L. In fact, the 16v 1.8L that is featured in the Euro Astra already makes roughly 140hp

Traditionally, American car makers have always increased displacement to make more horsepower. I think this needs to change. We need to make smaller, more powerful 4-cylinder engines. If GM put the same amount of effort into their ECOTEC line as they do the Small Block V8's, we would be on par, if not exceeding the foreign competition.

Gas isn't getting cheaper, and while V8's are good fun, they're not for everybody, and GM should ride the wave of hype they've recieved due to the Volt, and show that they can build the best engines out there, whether that be a supercar V8, or a grocery getting four-banger.

jeweler54 May 21, 2007 06:47 AM

it did come from GMINSIDENEWS.COM, that is gms PR website but i guess that doesnt mean shit. . .:rolleyes: i like that info VERY much and hope that is the direction gm goes, by 2011 they will probley change technology for gas. . . i hope or all these cars still get 30+mpg. mmmmmmmmmmmmmm turboooooooooooooo.

Jackalope May 21, 2007 09:01 AM

I'll believe it when I see it.

06G5GT May 21, 2007 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by jeweler54 (Post 1064960)
it did come from GMINSIDENEWS.COM, that is gms PR website but i guess that doesnt mean shit. . .:rolleyes: i like that info VERY much and hope that is the direction gm goes, by 2011 they will probley change technology for gas. . . i hope or all these cars still get 30+mpg. mmmmmmmmmmmmmm turboooooooooooooo.

GMinsidenews has zero relation to GM itself. It is run and paid for by GM fans.


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