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Old 12-05-2014, 03:48 PM
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anyone use them for regrinding cams

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Never used colt, but I know that kevin over at schnieder cams has alot of experience with GMPP stuff. Ill be getting together with him probably in the spring time to evaluate some new cams for the 2.4.
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go dig on thier site they do whats called a tri flow where they open one intake valve before the other honda has been doing for a few years now
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
go dig on thier site they do whats called a tri flow where they open one intake valve before the other honda has been doing for a few years now
Hasnt it already been confirmed that triflow has been a gimmick for years? Anyone remember JBP?
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Besides, the issue is not re-inventing the wheel with our car's, its the VVT and the centerlines and how they will behave when the cams move with a bigger camshaft. The VVT tables are optimized for the way the stock cams are, changing that profile without changing the VVT tables seemingly screws up the way it works. When I switched to the LNF exhaust cam, even though the profile was very similar, I had to make adjustments to the intake VVT table to actually see those improvements because the exhaust cam centerlines were different from stock. Not as simple as coming up with a profile for say a LSJ.
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Originally Posted by Spawne32
Hasnt it already been confirmed that triflow has been a gimmick for years? Anyone remember JBP?
no one confirmed it either way

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Besides, the issue is not re-inventing the wheel with our car's, its the VVT and the centerlines and how they will behave when the cams move with a bigger camshaft. The VVT tables are optimized for the way the stock cams are, changing that profile without changing the VVT tables seemingly screws up the way it works. When I switched to the LNF exhaust cam, even though the profile was very similar, I had to make adjustments to the intake VVT table to actually see those improvements because the exhaust cam centerlines were different from stock. Not as simple as coming up with a profile for say a LSJ.
it would be pointless to swap in bigger cams and think you wouldent have to mess with the vvt tables

as for choices for the 2.4 there is none cam wise no blanks to be had either i may try them and see whats the worse that cam happen i have swap stock cams back in
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
no one confirmed it either way



it would be pointless to swap in bigger cams and think you wouldent have to mess with the vvt tables

as for choices for the 2.4 there is none cam wise no blanks to be had either i may try them and see whats the worse that cam happen i have swap stock cams back in
If you figure out how to adjust the VVT appropriately then by all means, let us know what has to be done, but without spending hours on the dyno redesigning the entire table, its very difficult to know which way to go. Not sure what ZZP had done with their 2.4 cams when they were selling them to make them work effectively with the stock VVT tables, I would assume it was centerline and opening and closing event changes ground directly into the cam itself. I do know from my experience already with the delta regrinds (which were terrible btw and i got a refund) that you will wind up needing the ZZP extended lash adjusters for anything over .415 lift. If you use an LNF exhaust cam you can eliminate that some on the exhaust side, as the LNF exhaust cam is physically larger then the LE5 cam so less needs to be ground to achieve that bigger lift and you wont have as much in the way of lash adjustment issues.
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
go dig on thier site they do whats called a tri flow where they open one intake valve before the other honda has been doing for a few years now
That is neat increased intake air velocity if one opens right before the other. In theory anyway.
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That is neat increased intake air velocity if one opens right before the other. In theory anyway.
It was a big thing in the honda market years back, didnt really net any "extra" gains one way or the other against traditional cams. You will notice in their tech section about how it works they are using a 3 valve head as an example.
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Originally Posted by Spawne32
It was a big thing in the honda market years back, didnt really net any "extra" gains one way or the other against traditional cams. You will notice in their tech section about how it works they are using a 3 valve head as an example.
Yamaha uses a 5 valve head on a few of their motorcycles. 3 intake valves 2 exhaust valves. I wonder if this will be common soon to have 5-6 valves per cylinder.
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5v is nothing new at all.....
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5v is nothing new at all.....
Cars that have 5 valves per cylinder?
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Yamaha uses a 5 valve head on a few of their motorcycles. 3 intake valves 2 exhaust valves. I wonder if this will be common soon to have 5-6 valves per cylinder.
Doubt it, cost associated with doing a 5 valve head vs the power increase doesnt really add up to manufacturers. 4 valve heads work perfectly fine for even high power applications.
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Cars that have 5 valves per cylinder?
Audi/VW has done it for years, along with ferrari and some of the other exotics I believe.
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