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Old 11-10-2009, 02:15 AM
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Thanks, chief. **** you.
dont bitch at him for helping you. read it and learn, or dont and call him names... take a guess which one benefits you.
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lol I answered his question and posted links going into greater detail. lol what a moron
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its cool acey... guess he just wanted to start something lol...

let his VVT kick in... and ill tell my friend to sell him a VVT controller so it kicks in EARLIER YO!!!

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VVT is the next best thing to having valves that are individually actuated.
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Originally Posted by Acey
To answer your question... VVT doesn't "kick in". It's not VTEC. Read up in those links I posted, it'll take you 5 min and you'll have a vastly greater understanding
If he had actually read what you posted he would have known that. I learned that unlike VVT, VTEC switches between two different cam lobes depending on the RPM hence the "kick". Also i-VTEC can alter intake timing continuously in addition to what VTEC already does. I could go on and on about what I learned.
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That's what you get for helping people on this board. But I still love yall
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so this is like the domesticated V-Tec? lol
Old 11-10-2009, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackJackSS
so this is like the domesticated V-Tec? lol
no its the wanna be version of vtec
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Originally Posted by enemy no1
no its the wanna be version of vtec
except its better?

so its the improved VTEC
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no, honda had it first so its the wanna be version like I said. lol
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Originally Posted by Acey
No way did you just bump this thread. Here's your answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing and http://auto.howstuffworks.com/camshaft2.htm
i mean what am i supposed to say to this? tellin me not to bump the thread when the last post was 4 years ago. i mean common man you know you were being a little bitch about it. thanks for the info though.
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Originally Posted by enemy no1
no, honda had it first so its the wanna be version like I said. lol
IIRC, GM invented VTEC, and sold the patent to Honda, who actually started using it on their cars. soo....GM had it first
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wiki vvt and i think it was volvo or a european car maker
who intented it, caddy used it but not much of a success.
google and wiki is your friend. honda just made it
famus.
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
IIRC, GM invented VTEC, and sold the patent to Honda, who actually started using it on their cars. soo....GM had it first
that's pretty crazy... def didn't know that. that's awesome.
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
IIRC, GM invented VTEC, and sold the patent to Honda, who actually started using it on their cars. soo....GM had it first
Thats interesting...I didnt know that either. I'm curious to know where you got that info from because everywhere I have read on the internet always displays info along these lines...and its weird that this search turned up nothing about GM...

VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) is a valvetrain system developed by Honda to improve the volumetric efficiency of a four-stroke internal combustion engine. This system uses two camshaft profiles and electronically selects between the profiles. It was invented by Honda R&D engineer Ikuo Kajitani.[1] It can be said that VTEC, the original Honda variable valve control system, originated from REV (Revolution-modulated valve control) introduced on the CBR400 in 1983 known as HYPER VT EC.[2] VTEC was the first system of its kind, though other variable valve timing and lift control systems have been produced by other manufacturers (MIVEC from Mitsubishi, VVTL-i from Toyota, VarioCam Plus from Porsche, VVL from Nissan, etc).
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Originally Posted by enemy no1
Thats interesting...I didnt know that either. I'm curious to know where you got that info from because everywhere I have read on the internet always displays info along these lines...and its weird that this search turned up nothing about GM...

VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) is a valvetrain system developed by Honda to improve the volumetric efficiency of a four-stroke internal combustion engine. This system uses two camshaft profiles and electronically selects between the profiles. It was invented by Honda R&D engineer Ikuo Kajitani.[1] It can be said that VTEC, the original Honda variable valve control system, originated from REV (Revolution-modulated valve control) introduced on the CBR400 in 1983 known as HYPER VT EC.[2] VTEC was the first system of its kind, though other variable valve timing and lift control systems have been produced by other manufacturers (MIVEC from Mitsubishi, VVTL-i from Toyota, VarioCam Plus from Porsche, VVL from Nissan, etc).
got it on here from some technical guru. although...after doing a little searching..looks like he was wrong?

o well...w/e
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Fiat was the first auto manufacturer to patent a functional automotive variable valve timing system which included variable lift. Developed by Giovanni Torazza in the late 1960s, the system used hydraulic pressure to vary the fulcrum of the cam followers (US Patent 3,641,988). The hydraulic pressure changed according to engine speed and intake pressure. The typical opening variation was 37%.

In September 1975, General Motors (GM) patented a system intended to vary valve lift. GM was interested in throttling the intake valves in order to reduce emissions. This was done by minimizing the amount of lift at low load to keep the intake velocity higher, thereby atomizing the intake charge. GM encountered problems running at very low lift, and abandoned the project.

Alfa Romeo was the first manufacturer to use a variable valve timing system in production cars (US Patent 4,231,330). The 1980 Alfa Romeo Spider 2.0 L had a mechanical VVT system in SPICA fuel injected cars sold in the United States. Later this was also used in the 1983 Alfetta 2.0 Quadrifoglio Oro models as well as other cars. The system was engineered by Ing Giampaolo Garcea in the 1970s.[2]

Honda's REV motorcycle engine employed on the Japanese market-only Honda CBR400F in 1983 provided a technology base for VTEC.
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Originally Posted by rnjmur
Fiat was the first auto manufacturer to patent a functional automotive variable valve timing system which included variable lift. Developed by Giovanni Torazza in the late 1960s, the system used hydraulic pressure to vary the fulcrum of the cam followers (US Patent 3,641,988). The hydraulic pressure changed according to engine speed and intake pressure. The typical opening variation was 37%.

In September 1975, General Motors (GM) patented a system intended to vary valve lift. GM was interested in throttling the intake valves in order to reduce emissions. This was done by minimizing the amount of lift at low load to keep the intake velocity higher, thereby atomizing the intake charge. GM encountered problems running at very low lift, and abandoned the project.

Alfa Romeo was the first manufacturer to use a variable valve timing system in production cars (US Patent 4,231,330). The 1980 Alfa Romeo Spider 2.0 L had a mechanical VVT system in SPICA fuel injected cars sold in the United States. Later this was also used in the 1983 Alfetta 2.0 Quadrifoglio Oro models as well as other cars. The system was engineered by Ing Giampaolo Garcea in the 1970s.[2]

Honda's REV motorcycle engine employed on the Japanese market-only Honda CBR400F in 1983 provided a technology base for VTEC.
hmm thats very interesting so GM was headed in the right direction but wasnt successful with their designing of it. If alfa romeo had their system engineered in the 1970's I wonder who actually invented the technology...
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Originally Posted by enemy no1
hmm thats very interesting so GM was headed in the right direction but wasnt successful with their designing of it. If alfa romeo had their system engineered in the 1970's I wonder who actually invented the technology...
...Fiat

its the first sentence
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vtec is 2 sets of cam lobes hydraulically actuated at 4000 rpm's. it's a higher lift and more aggressive timing. vvt is a hydraulically actuated cam timing control. doesn't change lift.
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
...Fiat

its the first sentence


yeah you're right about that but fiat isnt GM and honda may not have invented it but honda apparently made it simpler and was one of the first to prooduce it on ecomony cars and every other car manufacturer out there just about has tried to copy it by designing something almost exactly like it. oh well
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Originally Posted by ff_drift_lol
vtec is 2 sets of cam lobes hydraulically actuated at 4000 rpm's. it's a higher lift and more aggressive timing. vvt is a hydraulically actuated cam timing control. doesn't change lift.
Yeah the actuation RPM varies depending on the motor... I think on older Si's it used to be like 5800
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Acually all in all BMW held design vtec first n vvti is nothing live vtec it's more like venos I guess it uses cam phasing to advance or retard a cam hense why we do not have a egr


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