This sucks.

 

Mike, if the shop your dealing with has any concerns or questions about timing feel free to have them call me.

Let me know if you need parts. If you are going to wait 2 weeks for parts to come from michigan, I can next day air them as I have pretty much everything to do a head swap in stock.

 

I gotta say JBP takes care of us.

 

Mev,I gave Fazsel your number,thanks,they are closed tommorro,but he is supposed to call me when he has figured out the problem,he has brought up the possibility of a bent valve but I dont think so cause we did not do anything more than try to turn the car over,anyways fazsels phone number is 604-591-3804

 

Gee, sorry for the bad news, Mike. But there's an upside.

If the head has to come off and at least a couple valves are out anyway, it sounds like time for some primo valve springs so you can bump up the rpm safely! It's much cheaper to do it now than later. Maybe JBP will make you a great price on some springs so you can test and eval. both products together.

Maybe even a mild port and Polish while you're at it.

What do you say guys?

Come on, you know you want it!

 

that would be sweet sushidog, but that money I dont have(dont know price.btw) but I really dont think there is any thing wrong with the valves, cause the car was never started up

 

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you can bend valves easily by cranking the engine over with the starter. A bent valve, even so slightly, is a garbage valve and won't seal during a leak-down test. If you are ever in doubt with timing, it should be tested by turning the engine over by hand prior to dry starting...

 

I think a complete set of installation instructions should accompany these cams and springs. I mean at the very least copy the FSM section and attach it.

Mike...go punch your buddy..

 

****! if Im going to need new valves, how much???Mev if Im gonna need valves, what do you recommend

 

while your in there just start putting pistons, rods, springs, what else..........nah just messing man but hope all is best case senerio......

 

before you're talking about bent valves, are the 2.4s intereference or non-interference engines when you have the JBP cams in em? cause thats something to consider before going on a fact finding mission and taking the head off.

 

You need two specialty tools when installing springs and camshafts. You also need a fair amount of understanding of engine operation when installing camshafts for any engine. Even seasoned mechanics can make mistakes with the best of instructions.

Mike is our tester and mentioned that he had someone "competant" to do the install. We did offer full instructions for install. At any rate, we include with our camshafts an outline the tools necessary for the install, how long it should take a competant mechanic/shop to perform the install and Pack up their cams and to take it to a competant license mechanic or performance shop. We DONT want customers who have an "idea" of what to do, to do the installation of cams.. Take it to the pros', to avoid exactly what Mike is going through...

 

I 100% agree with Mev.

 

Well Im trying to take the positive out of the fact that some of my valves might be going to heaven and that is.If I have to buy new valves at least JBP sells better one than the existing stockers

 

Great support JBP. I wasn't implying that you didn't offer install instructions, but I am glad to see that you did!! Also that you rent the valve spring tool is exxcellent

 

do you have a proper burial ready for the busted up valves?

 

been following this thread for a lil while lots of problems..it always sucks used to run into random problems like this too but as always a lil determination goes a long way good luck with everything mike im eager to hear the results

 

Damn Mike you need to punch your friend at least once for every bent valve! Its only fair I say.

 

I agree and then (you have likely already done this) kick yourself in the ass for letting him near your engine.

 

update? free bump. interested.

 

yeah did ya get the car out of the shop already?

 

Waiting!

 

Any word yet???

 

I think he said in another post that his buddy bent a valve(s) when they tried to install the cams.

 

the shop who is now taking care of the car will have a count on how many valves are bent,then they will call JBP, and then Ill pay Mev to overnight them and voula we will get the show on the road,after discovering my buddy hooped my car,I sent it to the shop,they are very busy and just got to my engine on Tues