firemanfrank

My other thread on the event only had a direct d/l link.

Here it is on Streetfire.net:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...SST_167224.htm

BlackBaltSSNA

hmm still not loading for me

scott allen

how can the ss/tc make 258 lbs tq at the wheels and its only rated 260 at the fly wheel i can believe the 237 hp at the wheels but 258 lbs tq come on thats not right

Darcy

The numbers arent what matter, its the comparison between the two that people were after. The conditions/dyno was the same for both cars and the turbo beat the S2.

scott allen

so what your trying to say is thess/tc only lost 2 hp thru the drivetrain its only rated at 260 lbs of tq so thats like saying its making about 290 to 300 lbs tq at the flywheel

2fastSS

yah bro thats exactly it...their tq monsters simple as that

R&C_rallySS

Since when did a car dyno exactly what it was rated at? That is new news to me.

scott allen

man your car can make a 1000 lbs of tq at the flywheel it still aint going to make 998 lbs of tq at the wheels

rallyracer

Well while your waiting for this to load up you can watch an Evo chase me though the twisties...

EVO hittin up the twisties

hungryhip-ccp

iTrader: (2)

wow that was some awesome driving

greekss

yo rallyracer, what are your mods?

rallyracer

At the time of that video all I had was GMPP Sport Exhaust and Sportline springs.

If you look hard at my sig you car see the camera mounted on the trunk of my car.

INDColtsFan18

sweet vid rally.

IonNinja

um SS/SC ring a bell?

they're trying to prove which car makes more power...it doesn't really matter if the dyno is a little forgiving or not because if it is it will be for both cars.

vid still not loading here btw...

firemanfrank

There's a vid I put up of a guy who owns a Dynapack dyno (like the one I used in the vid) who had done extensive testing with it:

He went as far as to pull an engine out of a car and test it on an actual ENGINE dyno, and then tested again in the car on his Dynapack.

He recorded a loss of 20-25hp between the ENGINE dyno and the Dynapack dyno.

Now follow me for a sec ...

Modified Mag got a +24whp with the install of a Stage 2 to a stock SC. Subtract that 24whp from my 227whp and you get 203whp for a stock SC on a Dynapack.

Now, add back the 20-25hp drive train loss between the Dynapack and the engine dyno itself, and a stock SC is making about 223-228 hp AT THE CRANK.

Looks to me like Chevy purposely underestimated the SC by a good 10%. This adds up when you look at Chevy's published dyno chart of the SC. It stops short of red line, and as everyone here already knows, the stock SC makes hp ALL THE WAY to red line.

So they just published hp numbers from a lower rpm.

Tricky ...

FryLoch

iTrader: (5)

SS/TC sounds lame... You can't hear spool or BOV, that's the way a turbo is supposed to be.

05redline

steddy2112

iTrader: (1)

Obviously you never driven one...

THe SC is silent too

chris88z24

I'd like to see a head to head race.. S2 vs. TC from 40 or something. Don't forget gearing, shiftpoints, and even the different redlines all can play a roll in who wins.

But I think the TC takes the cake on this one.

sherm420

QFT!

firemanfrank

^This is true.

Even the dyno guys at Synapse Motorsports said the SC easily won the "Best Sounding Car Award".

But they said they're working on an intake that will help it's sound ...

Maybe.

Maybe not ...

chris88z24

You should hear mine with the 2.5" catback and stainless muffler.. sounds MEAN. It's one of the deepest sounding 4 bangers i've ever heard. And of course that whine

steddy2112

iTrader: (1)

I don't care if the car sounds like dying babies.

If it is faster, it's faster.

BlackBaltSSNA

that would just be annoying

firemanfrank

^TRUE.

Except that no one has yet determined if the SS/T is faster than an Stage 2 SC.