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Old 01-27-2012, 10:16 AM
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Yeah, you can always add a cutout that can be opened when you want to get a little more power out of it. We didn't see much of a power gain by running no exhaust vs. our 3" exhaust on Ryan's car until it was past 550whp. Then it gradually made more power with the open exhaust the higher we went from there.

Why were the last 3 posts centered and wider than the rest?
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:52 AM
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^ that is weird... i tried editing one to the left, but the sig still remains in the center....i unno
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I think its cause of the youtube vids i put in.
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^ that is weird... i tried editing one to the left, but the sig still remains in the center....i unno
yeah that craps been going on for a while now
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I see it every now and then, but three posts in a row was weird.
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Originally Posted by Matt M View Post
Yeah, you can always add a cutout that can be opened when you want to get a little more power out of it. We didn't see much of a power gain by running no exhaust vs. our 3" exhaust on Ryan's car until it was past 550whp. Then it gradually made more power with the open exhaust the higher we went from there.
yup, we have that in mind.

It's just very hard to fit a cut-out on the kappas. None of the kappas that I saw with a cut-out was able to fit a cut-out near the dp.

but we'll see what happens.......

I just want the set-up to work first...then fine-tune it later
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one more vertical suport from under the turbo and its downpipe:30
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035 wall tubing? god the last time I welded with only 35 amps... wait I dont think I ever have. Last few welds I've done I've just had recommended amperage between 300 and 500 and just turned the knob till it stopped at 300.
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4'' down pipe of a thousand cuts. and now for a recirc pipe where no room exists.





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this may sound stupid but would 2 k04's on a lnf make good power or would it be a total waste?
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this may sound stupid but would 2 k04's on a lnf make good power or would it be a total waste?
What would basically happen in that case is it would be the equivalent of a larger turbo, but retain the quick spool too. That's why some V6 and V8 cars opt for twin turbos over a large single. The downside is the cost and complexity.
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What would basically happen in that case is it would be the equivalent of a larger turbo, but retain the quick spool too. That's why some V6 and V8 cars opt for twin turbos over a large single. The downside is the cost and complexity.
and of course, the v6 and v8 either supply 3 and 4 cylinders, respectively per turbo.

In an LNF, you'll end up having ONLY having 2 cylinders supplying exhaust gasses per turbo....which I think will NOT retain the quick spool that an ordinary LNF w/ only one turbo.....
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and of course, the v6 and v8 either supply 3 and 4 cylinders, respectively per turbo.

In an LNF, you'll end up having ONLY having 2 cylinders supplying exhaust gasses per turbo....which I think will NOT retain the quick spool that an ordinary LNF w/ only one turbo.....
Good points.

I wonder if a tricked out exhaust manifold could somehow circumvent the 2 cylinder issue. The more I think about that though, the more it seems like you'd be right back to the same issue again.
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Good points.

I wonder if a tricked out exhaust manifold could somehow circumvent the 2 cylinder issue.
not really sure, I'm just concerned about the 4 cylinders....lol

unless probably getting a lot smaller turbos than the k04? maybe a pair of gt2052?

each flow max of 23lb/min

so it might work! Or also add a couple of quick spool valve?

My head started aching thinking about having twin turbos on an LNF.....lol
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my head is aching after looking at how much space your working with! amazing work!!
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my head is aching after looking at how much space your working with! amazing work!!
this is the 3rd reversion of the kit by BTF since its really HARD to cramp everything inside the engine bay.


that's why I was planning to have the big turbo installed remotely before............but I ended up chosing to have the two turbos inside the engine bay. Way more impressive to look at

Plus I think more effective.....
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Im gonna run 2 k04's on my ss when I get it back just because I have the extra turbo and its one more custom trick to do with the car lol. only thing im debating is do I have one feed the other or do i have a Y into the charge piping to combine them?
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Originally Posted by overboostedss View Post
Im gonna run 2 k04's on my ss when I get it back just because I have the extra turbo and its one more custom trick to do with the car lol. only thing im debating is do I have one feed the other or do i have a Y into the charge piping to combine them?
2 K04s running in parallel on an LNF will be pretty laggy. The only time there is an advantage to running twin turbos is when you have separate banks and you can decrease the volume of exhaust pre-turbo by running one turbo on each bank.

You wouldn't want to run them in series either. The idea behind compound turbo setups is to use a small turbo for quick response at lower RPMs, and the resulting increase in power output is what allows a larger turbo to spool even though you have a small displacement engine.
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2 K04s running in parallel on an LNF will be pretty laggy. The only time there is an advantage to running twin turbos is when you have separate banks and you can decrease the volume of exhaust pre-turbo by running one turbo on each bank.

You wouldn't want to run them in series either. The idea behind compound turbo setups is to use a small turbo for quick response at lower RPMs, and the resulting increase in power output is what allows a larger turbo to spool even though you have a small displacement engine.

^^^ this!
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Originally Posted by Matt M View Post
2 K04s running in parallel on an LNF will be pretty laggy. The only time there is an advantage to running twin turbos is when you have separate banks and you can decrease the volume of exhaust pre-turbo by running one turbo on each bank.

You wouldn't want to run them in series either. The idea behind compound turbo setups is to use a small turbo for quick response at lower RPMs, and the resulting increase in power output is what allows a larger turbo to spool even though you have a small displacement engine.
Is that how the FD RX-7 works?
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Is that how the FD RX-7 works?
the RX 7 is a twin sequential turbo set-up. One small, and one big turbo.
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Yeah, cars like the Supra and RX7 used sequential. The 300ZX and I think 3000GT VR4 both used parallel.
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WERKS is almost done with my port injection Race Manifold!

I'll just have it powdercoated once I receive the unit!


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